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Old 03-16-2015, 09:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So I'm looking at getting a mountain bike this year but have no idea what I'm looking for.

I figure a LONG day will be about 20 miles tops, mostly trails mixed paved and not paved. I will want to be off-roading a bit and want something I can play around with.

Budget is flexible but I figure I'm lucky if I can keep it around $2K(us)
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So your not riding single track trails then?
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So your not riding single track trails then?
I don't know what that means.

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I am imagining sometimes but Im not super familiar with how the park trails are laid out........ I would put that under the 'playing around' category.

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Oh yea I do camp a lot as well so lots of unknown territory and will prob do end of snow season ski run bombing for kicks.

All in all I'm ASSUMING a mountain w/twin suspension.

That's about all I know.
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Check out the Trek Stache 7 and Superfly 6. Very good bikes for the money. Upgrade to tubeless if you will do more off road than on.

TBH, you might want to consider looking at what your local dealer carries and try them out. Be sure to ask about the brakes reliability if you get hydraulic. Some of the lower end wet systems are price point products.

In the end, you have great options in that price range. Stay away from the lower end suspension setups and get a decent hardtail. You will be able to afford better components.

Hope this helps. Good luck in your search.
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Oh yea I do camp a lot as well so lots of unknown territory and will prob do end of snow season ski run bombing for kicks.

All in all I'm ASSUMING a mountain w/twin suspension.

That's about all I know.
Full suspension has more things to break. With your budget, you have get a hardtail (front suspension only) with good components or FS with entry-ish components

I would recommend checking out the manufacturer sites for demo days that you can attend to test ride bikes.

FS bikes are overkill for pavement, and very inefficient.

How technical of trails you want to attempt later... would define the kind of bike.

If you're not going to go very technical, you can even consider a cyclocross bike as well (a road bike with clearance for meatier tires)
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Oh yea I do camp a lot as well so lots of unknown territory and will prob do end of snow season ski run bombing for kicks.

All in all I'm ASSUMING a mountain w/twin suspension.

That's about all I know.
The bike you use for pavement is pretty much the exact opposite of a bike you will use to bomb. However if you really want something capable of doing both you'll want a full suspension systems with lockouts. This allows you to lock out the suspension when riding pavement and smooth uphill. Then unlock when riding trails, rocky terrain, DH, etc.

Reasoning behind this: Basically a full suspension bike has a lot of movement in it. You have 2 pivot points that the bike shifts on and the movement in those points is lost energy when pedaling. This means harder pedaling with less production. However if you are going to to want to bomb ski runs, do single track, etc. you will want at minimum 120mm of travel in the front to absorb rocks, ruts and the like. and that's just for light terrain. DH (downhill) riding like what ski runs are often classified as you will likely want a little more travel than that in the front and between 120mm and 150mm travel in the rear.

You can get bikes with over 200mm travel in the rear but those get HEAVY and are used for big runs where you usually take a car shuttle or chair lift to the top instead of pedaling the bike.
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I'm sorry, but if you're going to be riding on pavement and doing "some off road", you do not want a full suspension bike! It's overkill beyond overkill. Get yourself a hybrid road and mountain bike. It will have a mountain bike style frame with thinner tires. Spend $500 or less (new). That's all you need until you decide that you want to either get into pure road biking or pure mountain biking (and which style of mountain biking), at which point you can spend some real money and get yourself something to suit your specific needs.

Good full suspension bikes cost in the multiples of thousands of dollars. Unless you're going to stick to downhill, you want it to be light weight and strong. Lower end full suspension bikes are usually neither.


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The bike you use for pavement is pretty much the exact opposite of a bike you will use to bomb. However if you really want something capable of doing both you'll want a full suspension systems with lockouts. This allows you to lock out the suspension when riding pavement and smooth uphill. Then unlock when riding trails, rocky terrain, DH, etc.

Reasoning behind this: Basically a full suspension bike has a lot of movement in it. You have 2 pivot points that the bike shifts on and the movement in those points is lost energy when pedaling. This means harder pedaling with less production. However if you are going to to want to bomb ski runs, do single track, etc. you will want at minimum 120mm of travel in the front to absorb rocks, ruts and the like. and that's just for light terrain. DH (downhill) riding like what ski runs are often classified as you will likely want a little more travel than that in the front and between 120mm and 150mm travel in the rear.

You can get bikes with over 200mm travel in the rear but those get HEAVY and are used for big runs where you usually take a car shuttle or chair lift to the top instead of pedaling the bike.
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Cyclocross....





MFG Cyclocross Tainted Cash Hand Up: Missed It by Hugger Industries, on Flickr

Other hand ups include food and booze.

You can use it on off-road trails... not technical of course.... the logs I would normally clear on my 29er, I would have to dismount when I'm on the cross bike.
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