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Anybody play guitar?

Just curious. This is my favorite thing to do after snowboarding. I just have alot of fun with it. Not trying to go pro or anything, just having fun. I'm hoping to graduate to campfire guy one day.

I have been teaching myself for the past year. I can play a few songs not bad, but I'm far from good. Just messing around. I would post a video but I'm too embarrassed.

My go to setlist when friends come over:

A-team by Ed Sheeran
Tight Fittin' Jeans by Conway Twitty
Brown Eyed Girl by Van Morrison
Copperhead Road by Steve Earl
The Gambler by Kenny Rogers
House of the Rising Son by The Animals
Every Rose Has It's Thorn by Poison
Riptide by Vance Joy
A Pirate Looks At Forty by Jack Johnson/Jimmy Buffet
Margaritaville by Jimmy Buffet

I like to sing and play at the same time but I've been told I'm not a very good singer. HAHA. But I don't really care, I'm not trying to win a Grammy.

I need to learn more songs, I'm finally starting to be able to play barre chords a little bit so I think that will open things up for me. I just have trouble finding time to practice, so I mainly mess around on the weekends.

If anyone has any barre chord or singing tips, I'd love to hear them.
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I've been self teaching myself and using Rocksmith for the last year on guitar and started on bass a bit earlier. Love it but finding it a struggle. I was born with just my thumb and pinky on my left hand forcing me to play lefty even though I'm right handed in everything else. I also can't hold a pick so I have had to improvise but turning RH thumb picks over, cutting off the pick part then gluing a regular pick to that. Despite all that I really enjoy it a lot. Luckily my music tastes sway to just thrashing out power chords so I'm not too concerned with intricate or highly technical playing techniques.

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I've been self teaching myself and using Rocksmith for the last year on guitar and started on bass a bit earlier. Love it but finding it a struggle. I was born with just my thumb and pinky on my left hand forcing me to play lefty even though I'm right handed in everything else. I also can't hold a pick so I have had to improvise but turning RH thumb picks over, cutting off the pick part then gluing a regular pick to that. Despite all that I really enjoy it a lot. Luckily my music tastes sway to just thrashing out power chords so I'm not too concerned with intricate or highly technical playing techniques.
Wow good for you! That's amazing! Not sure if you are a Blues man but you could always try slide guitar. It's a fun/interesting style and you only need one finger. Check-out Jack White.

Nice slide solo starts at 4:30

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Wow good for you! That's amazing! Not sure if you are a Blues man but you could always try slide guitar. It's a fun/interesting style and you only need one finger. Check-out Jack White.

Nice slide solo starts at 4:30

White Stripes version of Death Letter is one of my favorite songs to play
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I do...but I has the Asian rhythm and tonal challenge...so no yoyo ma pho mee...so I don't sing and grooving in the pocket....not going to happen at least hasn't happened yet despite playing on and mostly off since being a teenager.

For barre chords and singing .... go slow and play scales for fretboard agility and maybe check out the CAGED system.

Its one of my favorite things to do beside snowboard, eat and sleep. Hang your git on the wall so that you can quickly grab it when you got a few extra minutes. I try to noodle around mostly along with ytube vids or a "ditto"....I try to get 1-2 hours a day. But it helps to have a mole hole that you can disappear into.





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White Stripes version of Death Letter is one of my favorite songs to play
I messed around with this song but it's too hard. I'm not there yet. I love it, old Son House version is cool too. Definitely on the must learn list.

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I do...but I has the Asian rhythm and tonal challenge...so no yoyo ma pho mee...so I don't sing and grooving in the pocket....not going to happen at least hasn't happened yet despite playing on and mostly off since being a teenager.

For barre chords and singing .... go slow and play scales for fretboard agility and maybe check out the CAGED system.

Its one of my favorite things to do beside snowboard, eat and sleep. Hang your git on the wall so that you can quickly grab it when you got a few extra minutes. I try to noodle around mostly along with ytube vids or a "ditto"....I try to get 1-2 hours a day. But it helps to have a mole hole that you can disappear into.



Daaaaamn dude! You have some serious gear! Your cool factor went up a couple notches. I see a Les Paul. I got my kid an Epiphone Les Paul to learn on. It is sweet.
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Wasibi...incoming wall of text,

Couple things I thought about for your bar chords. I don’t know howposition you play guitar but if you have small hands, stubby fingers and short arms like me you might consider going to a classical position. Years ago I broke my left wrist and while rehabbing I switched from a folk position to a classical position. This gave my fretting hand much better access to the fretboard. There’s an old book out called the Segovia Technique by Vladimir somebody. Anyway it’s a picture book of how to do the classical position.

So while on the classical bent, one of the single best things I ever did was to do the Segovia study of diatonic scales...iirc 8 pages and $5-6. I still don’t read music...but sit down and spend some time figuring out the patterns for diatonic scales. Basically there are five or seven patterns that you learn in the Segovia study helps with learning how to move between positions while playing scales. Get the diatonic scales under your fingers...and the rock and roll/blues pentatonic scales will be a piece of cake....and you will also be able to do mixolodian and most anything else. Anyhow years go during my rehab I would sit down and play 1 to 2 hours a scales relentlessly but it really got my fingers and hands coordinated, strengthened and agile that when I moved on the tackle chords it was really a piece cake.

Moving on to learning new things. Whatever it is a song, scale, chords. The thing to do is learn it very very very slowly… but accurately/correctly and try to get each note/chord to ring out clearly… the speed will come later. What you basically are doing is you want to get the accuracy down, and so as you are learning, i.e., you are developing the neural muscular pathways… You want to be laying down the pathways accurately. The additional benefit is that your ear will also develop…and half of playing an instrument is being able to listen. So as you are practicing strive to do repeats in a series of three accurate repeats. But take whatever problem part, break it down into smaller parts practiced the smaller parts in series of threes and then gradually put the smaller parts back together. And don’t sit down and hammered this out for two hours at a time. Practiced abit at little a time... so the small difficult piece like for 5 to 10 minutes. Then go on to something else and then come back to practice another five or 10 minutes. And if you can do this two or three times a day… Is little 5 to 10 minute burst practices that are highly accurate but slow..you will easily have 30-45 minutes of highly focused practice in a day. You will see results within a few days to a week…two weeks tops. For example if you are struggling with chords… Say from a third fret bar G to a fifth fret bar D…to a fifth fret bar Am/and alternate 3 fret bar C (knockin on heaven’s door) …. First just practice switching from G to D then add the Am then the C and back to G. You don’t even need to strum..or you can just strum the top 2-3, or middle 2-3 or bottom 2-3 strings…depending on the tonal phrasing you are wanting.

If you don’t know about this site, its really good for beginners and intermediate slingers.

Justin Guitar | Free Guitar Lessons

Sorry for the wall of text...have fun...I really don't watch tv much anymore and spend time in the mole hole doing hack jamming with the guitar gods on YT...lol


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Wasibi...incoming wall of text,

Couple things I thought about for your bar chords. I don’t know howposition you play guitar but if you have small hands, stubby fingers and short arms like me you might consider going to a classical position. Years ago I broke my left wrist and while rehabbing I switched from a folk position to a classical position. This gave my fretting hand much better access to the fretboard. There’s an old book out called the Segovia Technique by Vladimir somebody. Anyway it’s a picture book of how to do the classical position.

So while on the classical bent, one of the single best things I ever did was to do the Segovia study of diatonic scales...iirc 8 pages and $5-6. I still don’t read music...but sit down and spend some time figuring out the patterns for diatonic scales. Basically there are five or seven patterns that you learn in the Segovia study helps with learning how to move between positions while playing scales. Get the diatonic scales under your fingers...and the rock and roll/blues pentatonic scales will be a piece of cake....and you will also be able to do mixolodian and most anything else. Anyhow years go during my rehab I would sit down and play 1 to 2 hours a scales relentlessly but it really got my fingers and hands coordinated, strengthened and agile that when I moved on the tackle chords it was really a piece cake.

Moving on to learning new things. Whatever it is a song, scale, chords. The thing to do is learn it very very very slowly… but accurately/correctly and try to get each note/chord to ring out clearly… the speed will come later. What you basically are doing is you want to get the accuracy down, and so as you are learning, i.e., you are developing the neural muscular pathways… You want to be laying down the pathways accurately. The additional benefit is that your ear will also develop…and half of playing an instrument is being able to listen. So as you are practicing strive to do repeats in a series of three accurate repeats. But take whatever problem part, break it down into smaller parts practiced the smaller parts in series of threes and then gradually put the smaller parts back together. And don’t sit down and hammered this out for two hours at a time. Practiced abit at little a time... so the small difficult piece like for 5 to 10 minutes. Then go on to something else and then come back to practice another five or 10 minutes. And if you can do this two or three times a day… Is little 5 to 10 minute burst practices that are highly accurate but slow..you will easily have 30-45 minutes of highly focused practice in a day. You will see results within a few days to a week…two weeks tops. For example if you are struggling with chords… Say from a third fret bar G to a fifth fret bar D…to a fifth fret bar Am/and alternate 3 fret bar C (knockin on heaven’s door) …. First just practice switching from G to D then add the Am then the C and back to G. You don’t even need to strum..or you can just strum the top 2-3, or middle 2-3 or bottom 2-3 strings…depending on the tonal phrasing you are wanting.

If you don’t know about this site, its really good for beginners and intermediate slingers.

Justin Guitar | Free Guitar Lessons

Sorry for the wall of text...have fun...I really don't watch tv much anymore and spend time in the mole hole doing hack jamming with the guitar gods on YT...lol
Oh I love Justin Guitar. I have been following his lessons on and off for the past year. I bought his beginner song book and his beginner lesson book. Great stuff and easy to learn on your own. I highly recommend him too.

I have messed with the classical position but it isn't for me. I can do barre chords now but I'm slow and they don't always sound good, but I'm miles from where I was a few months ago. I have a shitty old Yamaha that is hard to play. I put medium weight strings on it too, they sound better to me but harder to barre. I need to take it in to get it setup by a pro, maybe get the action lowered. I will put lighter strings on it too.

I can barre on my kid's les paul all day but I want to be able to do it on my acoustic, I'm stubborn that way.
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i actually just started taking lessons a couple weeks ago. it's a lot of fun.

wasabi, if you wanna learn another song try jimi hendrix's "hey joe". it's really simple. the only chords you use are c, g, d, a, e (all major).
it goes like this:

c c g g | d d a a | e e e e | e e e e and repeats

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i've been playing classical guitar for about 15 years now.

I also have a fender strat and i love playing electric, but it tends to lose its novelty and i always find myself picking up my old takimine and slowin' it down.

I rarely play others peoples songs. I like to just jam around until i stumble upon something that sounds pleasant and then beat it into the ground then move onto the next thing.

About three years ago i started teaching myself to play piano and i like it just as much. my new thing is recording a piano loop and looping it, then going to guitar. only problem is that classical acoustic guitar doesn't always overlap well w/ grand piano unless i really slow down and underplay the piano.

I'd reiterate what wrath said about classical positioning. yeah, you look like a girl when you're holding it that way.. but it really does help. It is actually closer to the position most professionals use while standing than the regular guitar positioning.

PS: wrath that's a lot of gear for someone who claims to be tone deaf... i'm gonna call BS and say you're actually pretty good (or mid life crisis, who knows)
PPS: yo yo ma plays cello, not guitar.

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