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Old 02-17-2010, 11:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone enjoy whitewater when they're not snowboarding? I've only taken commercial trips, but for the last 2 years I've ran the Upper Gauley (during Fall release) in WV. It's a good time. The Gauley's becoming an every-year event now for me and a few others. We ran it last year in one of the smaller T-4 rafts. Pretty fun ride.

One of these days I'd like to learn how to kayak but there's really no time for it right now.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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As much as I can......
Nice! I'd love to do a non-commerical trip (on something really mellow of course), mostly to take in the scenery and camp out along the way. Looks like a good time.

You ever guide commercial rafts?

This is from my first trip on the Gauley...my first swim too... that would be my leg sticking up out of the water

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i like to float class 3+ stuff in inflateable kayaks
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Only done whitewater a few times. I have to say, I did not enjoy my swim in class 4 rapids very much at all. I'd love to do some multi day camp / whitewater trips.....just not in the deep south.
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Old 02-19-2010, 02:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The Fall Gauley is pretty epic. With the right crew (and more importantly, guide) it can be exciting and relatively safe at the same time.

Class Vs on the Gauley are wicked, but not overly long and often end in a nice, calm pool.

That's one of the Class Vs that I swam. I probably picked the best one to fall out on. My adrenaline was pumping to be sure, but it could've been worse!

Excellent video tour of all the rapids, if you're interested:

http://www.gauleyriverrapids.com/
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I hit the Gauley last fall too. It was a blast! Want to see amazing carnage? Follow a boat full of guides, preferably while listening to the Benny Hill theme song. I lost count of how many times we flipped our boat (13 at least, including several epic end over end flips). I was actually having trouble pulling myself back into the raft by the time we nearing the takeout. Pillow and Sweet's Falls are amazing, but short. However, some of the other biggies are pretty darn long. Don't swim at Lost Paddle, I think it's about a quarter mile long and there are undercuts everywhere.

I guided on the Lower Youghiogheny last summer, which was fun. Sure it's small potatoes, but great for learning to kayak. The Upper Yough is amazing, though. Consider running it this summer. It's a lot different from the Gauley, but still really exciting. The Gauley is all about big volume and huge, powerful rapids -- bigger than anything on the Yough. But the Upper Yough is tighter, really technical at times, much steeper, and more continuously intense than the Gauley. Between the named rapids, it's usually Class III-ish boogie water and small ledge drops instead of calm pools. Try not to swim much, because you'll probably end up swimming more than one rapid.

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Old 07-08-2010, 01:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Snowolf,

What kind of boat is that you use, exactly? I'm kind of looking for something I could float down a river with Class I-III rapids but mostly just chill and get my family in (wife, 2 kids, both small right now, and a Golden Retriever) plus gear... I'm new to boating in general so I'm not looking to just jump into anything but I am looking around...

While kayaking a couple of weeks ago I saw a guy in raft with his wife and kid and dog and gear...and it looked like a blast. I've been looking at canoes etc, but nothing that would really suit the entire family

Thanks!
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i'm a fishing guide and work out of an aluminum drift boat. guided on the D for 3 years, now i'm on the coast.

we'd run all of those rapids above except for boxcar and wap' on a regular basis on our 3 day trips... i love the deschutes....i'll be out there in a week actually

rafts and yaks are cool, but i really like the finesse required for a hardboat (and the comfortand dryness)

so far whitehorse is the gnarliest rapid i've shot in the drifter. at 5000-5500cfm me no likey my run once... i have some buddies that guide the Rogue that are complete badasses.... blossom bar in a hardboat = skillz
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wolf - those drifters in the GC are all ballasted with 1000lbs+ of displacement foam or air pockets. those are hardboats that you can flip over without filing an insurance claim or calling Mark Angel. not many of em in Oregon, but they make em at Lavro up in washington.

the driftboats you see on the D, if they flip its all over.

Oh shit rock i know well.. the other one we call oh fuck.... have been pushed straight over the can opener at 5500 cfs - didnt even touch it. i like it alot better like in your scouting pic. when its bony its way slower and alot less pushy.... in a drift boat the best line is to hug the left side of the knuckles, and just as you get by them slide the ass end of the boat over the LH knuckle, sometimes getting a little sideways into the wash behind the knuckles. this slows you down real good so you can then just pick your way thru..

coming in there fast sucks
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ya i've got two friends with permits to guide the lower 30 by jet, only one of em does it - and he's pretty good on the tiller.... imagine going down those rapids on step

pretty sure Mark does all salvage ops on the D... here's some pics of him doing his thing: Whitehorse Salvage - Wooden Boat People

if you google 'Mark Angel Salvage' you can probably find some more stuff.. he's a badass mo fo

in a db whitehorse is all about the first 15 seconds after you enter... if you've made it past that youre usually all good... if you didn't you might just be on a rock.

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