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Old 08-25-2011, 10:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Advice if starting from scratch with skateboarding?

I'm thinking of taking up skateboarding or longboarding casually during the non-snowboarding season. I've been doing the balance beam per the SA videos, but I think that's only going to be good for this year.

Anyway, I'm a total noob -- actually not even a noob yet, as a noob has at least tried it. I'm not interested in downhilling, just some casual screwing around. Don't know if that rules a longboard out right away. I'm not asking for a how-to or total handholding, just some general advice. Brands to really avoid, or tech to really avoid, or new tech coming in to look for so I'm not obsolete before I start, or beginner mistakes that always screw people up. Basic stuff. Any help appreciated.
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I slackline every so often. Helped a ton with my balance, and is cheap. I have been longboarding for a bit, but only this summer got into skateboarding. Longboarding is easier to get started imho.

My main longboard is the NS decent V2, it is kinda nice because it is kind of a mix between a skateboard and a longboard. I also have an arbor assault, which is really nice too.

Skateboarding is a lot more fun if you don't have many decent hills. However, you can still have a lot of fun longboarding on small inclines. Some of the freeride longboards feel a lot like snowboarding which I really enjoy.

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I transitioned from skateboarding to snowboarding, having the prior experience it wasn't a big jump and I got the hang of it fairly quick.

Long boarding IMO is more for the people who like to cruise around, granted I never long boarded before.

Skateboarding won't be awfully to hard to pick up, it's more about feet positioning and balance/stance then anything else, once you get that in check you should be fine. If you want to avoid having to kick push every two seconds, get decent ABEC 7 spec bearings for a smoother ride, 9 would be a bit too much for someone just starting out, 5 should be bare minimum.

If you won't be doing any tricking, more so just riding, a wider board, higher trucks and bigger wheels will accommodate that, a board 8 or more wide will do you, any less it's more a street board. If you were to get a skateboard, Plan B make really well constructed boards as I have mistreated mine and it's still going strong haha, and IMO Destructo make some good trucks.

I can't really think of anything else, I myself only been skateboarding for a few months now.
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Also like any sport, don't get discouraged if you fall etc. First time I attempted an ollie I landed on my back and it knocked the wind out of me haha
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You're in the right city, but proceed with caution. Skateboarding injuries can sometimes even run into snowboard season.
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Well my man,
your way bolder then me. I never considered this, as I thought the injuries could be huge.
let us know how it goes if you take it up. I took my kids Razor scooter to the skate park and rode around on that on the features when my kids used to go to the skate park. Was kinda fun, and kids didn't laugh, at least out loud at me hahaaaa.
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That is why I think longboarding is easier to start out. You can find a small, or even nearly flat fresh stretch of road and just cruise around. For me going from longboarding to skateboard seemed easier because I had good balance built up and could already do some of the tricks on a longboard.

For longboarding the gear I use:

- Bones swiss bearings (not abec rated). I don't find them any faster, just last longer. Like snowbanana said, abec 7 is good enough.

- Orangatang durions, good for sliding and decent enough for medium speeds. Wheel choice really depends on what you want to do. I recommend starting with a wheel that slides easily, it will make learning to stop easier.

- Lush slide gloves, get a good pair of gloves, leather. Or make your own with construction gloves

- Helmet and knee pads are highly recommend. I like protec stuff.

Others may disagree, but the biggest difference in how a board rides for me is the trucks and bushings. Bushings are cheap, and completely change how it rides. I use paris trucks with really soft bushings so it carves quickly. However that will make it more unstable at high speeds. My preference is just to cruise around and do tricks instead of bomb hills at high speed.

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Others may disagree, but the biggest difference in how a board rides for me is the trucks and bushings. Bushings are cheap, and completely change how it rides. I use paris trucks with really soft bushings so it carves quickly. However that will make it more unstable at high speeds. My preference is just to cruise around and do tricks instead of bomb hills at high speed.
aiidoneus brings up a good point, as for skateboarding, adjusting your king pins on you trucks does this, the tighter it is makes it harder to perform carves like heel side/toe side in snowboarding and you will have to rely on kick turns more, but will give you a more stable ride at higher speeds and allow you to I guess, to an extent, help with your tricking but I think the truck height affects this more.

Looser trucks/king pins makes it a lot easier to initiate those turns without resulting in a kick turn, but if it's to loose this may result in wheel bite. It's just about the right balance for you, I like having tighter trucks as I almost 100 percent of the time use kick turns anyways.

This really does affect how you ride and your experience so, yes it's a must to configure it to your liking.
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aiidoneus brings up a good point, as for skateboarding, adjusting your king pins on you trucks does this, the tighter it is makes it harder to perform carves like heel side/toe side in snowboarding and you will have to rely on kick turns more, but will give you a more stable ride at higher speeds and allow you to I guess, to an extent, help with your tricking but I think the truck height affects this more.

Looser trucks/king pins makes it a lot easier to initiate those turns without resulting in a kick turn, but if it's to loose this may result in wheel bite. It's just about the right balance for you, I like having tighter trucks as I almost 100 percent of the time use kick turns anyways.

This really does affect how you ride and your experience so, yes it's a must to configure it to your liking.
Ya, on a skateboard I like tighter kingpins. Helps me land tricks. Longboarding I like looser for the carving feel.
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What I can't get out of my mind is the AVF clip of a skateboarder trying to do a trick and having the skateboard end up vertical between his legs as he landed. Looked painful.

Slyder: Believe me, bud, I'm not going to be "just hucking it". Slow and careful keeps donutz in one piece.

And thanks for all the comments, guys. Biggest encouragement is that no one seems to have fallen over laughing. But hey, there was a pic on a recent Skateboarding magazine of some guy who's just coming up on 50 and is still in the thick of the skateboarding world.
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