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Muscle milk ftw ! Just be sure to wash your glass right away or it will leave chocolate / vanilla stains that are a bitch to get out later.
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There are other things higher in protein than chicken... I had cereal with milk this morning for breakfast. (probably about 15g)... Lentil soup is high in protein, cottage cheese, shrimp, etc. etc. etc. I think to hit that 240g per day stat you'd pretty much have to consume shakes to supplement.

The other issue is protein absorption. From what I've read your body can only absorb about 50 grams of protein per meal while the rest will just be passed through as waste. So to get to 240g/day you'd have to have 5 meals with 50g or so in them.

I was trying to consume 150g a day and found it difficult.
Going to disagree with you on this buddy as I eat large amounts of protein daily. Point to make about saying the human body can only ingest so much protein. How would hunter gaterhs survive? Its important to note that evolution has played a big part in how are bodys consume food or enegry. If a hunter hunts for meals and has to expend energy just to find a food source Then how can he survive if his body only consumes so much food in one sitting.

You have to belive that if you killed a boar that you cant store for the week your going to consume as much of it as possible in one sitting while you can. Your body consumes energy over an 8 hour period which is how its effiecient at this. What that theory suggests is that our bodys arent effiecient enough to consume everything stored. What is true? certain foods digest diffrent in the body so the cals consumed by them varies. How so? Well Beef digest the fast hence burning the least amount of cals to consumed. Diffrent proteins like chicken and Egg whites are hard to metabolize and because of that the cals burned also yield a lower net cal consumed but stay high in Protein source. This is how you make your food work for your metabolism and why the paleo diet is now popular. So where research was wrong on the point that you can only consume so much in one sitting.

Because of this I look to make eggs and chiken a staple in my diet, Turkey breast as well. I dont consider Yougurts and chick peas real proteins because they more often then not get protein through the same source as SOY which is estrogen and we all know that makes us moody bitches right? What makes a protein diffrent types of aminos so its important to note that this is whats seperates protein sources and its also important to note that when examining the structures of the aminos that make proteins protein that sources like nuts are more psuedo protein because of the aminos they are comprised of. this might stun allof of people but nuts are genuinely a INCOMPLETE PROTEIN because of the amino structure that makes them a protein.


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There's the problem then. There's no way I could put away 8 chicken breasts in a day. And I'm assuming that would be in addition to eating other shit like fruits, grains, and vegetables. How does somebody even go about getting that much food into themselves? 4 meals?

I'm not kidding either, I'd actually like to know how a normal sized 160 lb person can eat that much without being in a perpetual food coma.
When you eat your brain doesnt know that the stomach is full for a controlled period time. Look you dont have to eat on the 1.5 per pound as the minimum amount, However eating more protein as you can read will do more for you and you can from my findings eat as high as 2.5 perpound before the kidney starts to have complications from the influx of proteins.

Important point to make is that the metrics suggest that you should eat a consistent amount of protein as it is simply better for you. I use the 1.5 metric to more or less guide you on what you should aim for and how you should structiure your meal plan over a day. Now im not saying eat just 8 chicken breast but we all have smart phones right? Download a calorie counting app and learn what 4oz of meat looks like and feels like (weight). 4 oz's of lean protein is on average about 200-300 calories and yields 30-22 grams of protein.

Protein shakes are just suppliments as ive pointed out and while they help they do not do the cure. Refering back to evolution and how this has played on our metabolism how does are body find powder as a great source of protein. Im not saying they dont work but over doing it on shakes is a great way to fuck up you organs as they are not made to process powder. In fact powders sit in your organs backing up bile and putting urine in your blood. I know it because its happend to me


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Drink lots and lots of milk. A gallon of milk has 120g of protein. Plus if you drink it throughout the day, you have a much better chance of absorbing it.
Yeah and booster juice shakes are decent too. But haven them too often and you'll end up with a kidney stone like me at 28 year old!!!

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Protein shakes are just suppliments as ive pointed out and while they help they do not do the cure. Refering back to evolution and how this has played on our metabolism how does are body find powder as a great source of protein. Im not saying they dont work but over doing it on shakes is a great way to fuck up you organs as they are not made to process powder. In fact powders sit in your organs backing up bile and putting urine in your blood. I know it because its happend to me
Uhhhh, what? Are you chewing powder to get your protein?!? lol If you mix your shakes enough it should dissolve and you end up with proteins (amino acids) and some flavouring in the milk/water, there's not much fibre in a protein powder methinks. Anyway, it's a moot point cause I don't do the shake thing anymore, haven't for a few years now.

Here's a typical meal for me now:

- 4 oz steak, I usually buy a nice 8 oz rib eye and cut it in half, then BBQ it for my GF and I
- big helping of grilled veggies, peppers, asparagus, etc.

Another one we like to do is 4 oz grilled chicken and a whole bunch of veggies. Lasagna soup is another recipe that I've lost a lot of weight on. It's ground beef, tomatoes, some veggies, and a small amount of whole wheat lasagna pasta broken up in the soup. Add just a little parm to the top for flavour and it's good to go!

I still think my moms vegetable beef soup is a magic food. There's tons of water, veggies, and then a little beef for proteins and fat, and a tiny bit of barley added in.
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Yeah and booster juice shakes are decent too. But haven them too often and you'll end up with a kidney stone like me at 28 year old!!!



Uhhhh, what? Are you chewing powder to get your protein?!? lol If you mix your shakes enough it should dissolve and you end up with proteins (amino acids) and some flavouring in the milk/water, there's not much fibre in a protein powder methinks. Anyway, it's a moot point cause I don't do the shake thing anymore, haven't for a few years now.

Here's a typical meal for me now:

- 4 oz steak, I usually buy a nice 8 oz rib eye and cut it in half, then BBQ it for my GF and I
- big helping of grilled veggies, peppers, asparagus, etc.

Another one we like to do is 4 oz grilled chicken and a whole bunch of veggies. Lasagna soup is another recipe that I've lost a lot of weight on. It's ground beef, tomatoes, some veggies, and a small amount of whole wheat lasagna pasta broken up in the soup. Add just a little parm to the top for flavour and it's good to go!

I still think my moms vegetable beef soup is a magic food. There's tons of water, veggies, and then a little beef for proteins and fat, and a tiny bit of barley added in.
If you ever get a proetein shake again let it subside after you mix, parts fall to the floor which is similar to what it does in your organs. Also yes lol I have chewed on protein powder, if you mash up berries add a little milk and powder you can get a fluff sort of speak. I do this from time to time to get some sweets as protein powders have great flavors resembling sweets. My fav to do this with is Double fudge and strawberries.


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I wanna note that the purpose of me giving this information isnt to make everybody muscle head joe. I love to snowboard and the culture it puts out there among us who love it enough to push our selves. I simply wanna help people realize that fat issues and building strength is not as hard as you may think.

So if your reading my posts here, Ive made mention that in the fitness community there are plenty of methods one can impliment in any scenriao. My goal with this thread is to help people get what they want out snowboarding and thats fun. Seems to me that there are plenty of people who want to get in better shape here simply for this. Im looking to help those get just that and nothing more.


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So if your reading my posts here, Ive made mention that in the fitness community there are plenty of methods one can impliment in any scenriao. My goal with this thread is to help people get what they want out snowboarding and thats fun. Seems to me that there are plenty of people who want to get in better shape here simply for this. Im looking to help those get just that and nothing more.
I think it's honourable. So many people come on here asking about which board to buy, bindings, boots etc. Debating the specific wax technique to get that 0.2% better glide in the spring, etc.

What would make 99% of snowboarders better snowboarders is = increased fitness (cardiovascular fitness and body composition), and practice practice practice!
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So if your reading my posts here, Ive made mention that in the fitness community there are plenty of methods one can impliment in any scenriao. My goal with this thread is to help people get what they want out snowboarding and thats fun. Seems to me that there are plenty of people who want to get in better shape here simply for this. Im looking to help those get just that and nothing more.
Good Info, here. Kudos and Thanks for the food for thought....pun intended.

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I wanna note that the purpose of me giving this information isnt to make everybody muscle head joe. I love to snowboard and the culture it puts out there among us who love it enough to push our selves. I simply wanna help people realize that fat issues and building strength is not as hard as you may think.

So if your reading my posts here, Ive made mention that in the fitness community there are plenty of methods one can impliment in any scenriao. My goal with this thread is to help people get what they want out snowboarding and thats fun. Seems to me that there are plenty of people who want to get in better shape here simply for this. Im looking to help those get just that and nothing more.
Totally agree with you here, people turn to blame gear because it's an easy fix, when the real factor is typically mental/physical shortcomings/misdirection. Plenty of different ways to lose weight and what you're giving out is good info.

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The best thing I did in terms of excersize was subconcious, I bought a fixed gear bike and I ride it 5 miles to and from school everyday usually brakeless and really you barely notice it but then like 6 months later look at your physical shape it's awesome!

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