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Old 05-07-2013, 06:53 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I miss the thrill of racing but I sure don't miss the time consumption and throwing money down the drain part of it. I hate to know how much money in tires and motors I spent in the 4 years that I raced micro sprints.



Nothing like working on the car for 40 hours a week to play with it for 15 mins...

You probably know Jubal Dike and Michael Mallott from the mini Sprints?

They are both good friends of mine.

When the snow flies again. I will have to hit Paoli with ya, or plan a trip west!
No doubt, it was fun though. I raced against Jubal, I talked to him a few times.

Definitely hit for me up for Paoli. I've been trying to plan a trip out to Colorado in early winter. I've bought the Rocky Mountain Season Pass for Winter Park, Copper and Steamboat. I'm going with my family for spring break and want to go early in the season too. If you're up for a road trip out there, let me know and we can try to get some details worked out.

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So, I bought this the other day... *slobber*
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So, I bought this the other day... *slobber*
That's a sharp looking ride right there. Have a blast ripping it up!
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Well I got my mini Shaka today. I took it to a parking garage that had no cars at the top and rode the ramps for an hour or so. Very fun but stopping is quite the experience. My foot braking sucks. It's a good thing I had 4 lanes to carve really wide.

My board seems super twitchy though. I cranked 2 full turns into both kingpins and it helped a little but not much. How much can I crank on the kingpins? Maybe I need different bushings since I weigh 185? Maybe I'm being a pussy?

It felt like I was on the very edge of sliding but never got it. I realize it takes more than an hour to learn, but I had a blast and now have another hobby. I kinda feel like a douche learning longboarding at 39, but feeling like a douche never stopped from other shit.

Any help would be appreciated,
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Well I got my mini Shaka today. I took it to a parking garage that had no cars at the top and rode the ramps for an hour or so. Very fun but stopping is quite the experience. My foot braking sucks. It's a good thing I had 4 lanes to carve really wide.

My board seems super twitchy though. I cranked 2 full turns into both kingpins and it helped a little but not much. How much can I crank on the kingpins? Maybe I need different bushings since I weigh 185? Maybe I'm being a pussy?

It felt like I was on the very edge of sliding but never got it. I realize it takes more than an hour to learn, but I had a blast and now have another hobby. I kinda feel like a douche learning longboarding at 39, but feeling like a douche never stopped from other shit.

Any help would be appreciated,
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WARNING: I do not know as much as some other people, so take this with a grain of salt until Boarderaholic chimes in.

Did you ever longboard/ skateboard before? If no, then you've probably realized that longboarding feels very different from snowboarding. It'll take you some time to get used to it. As a beginner, you'll be unfamiliar with the board and your stiff legs/lack of experience/no control will make the board feel twitchy. Just practice, practice, and practice some more. Practice in between practices as well.

You could possibly get harder bushings but I was under the impression that stock bushings on trucks are usually really hard. You should be fine. But it doesn't hurt to experiment so you could look into some barrel bushings in the 88-93a range for your weight. The higher number means the bushing is harder and more stable and less turny.

Always learn to footbrake first. It may slow you down slower than slides and chew through your shoes, but it is really important to learn how to footbrake. It'll get you out of sketchy situations like when you're going too fast on a narrow sidewalk and don't have space to slide. If it was your first day longboarding, then you probably will not have slides down. Sorry to be a debby-downer. Just keep going and learn to footbrake (google helps).

AND, don't worry about being 39. I don't care if your old, young, middle age, whatever, I'm glad as long as someone new is trying longboarding and discovering it. Many 15-year-olds don't have the balls to step on a longboard and use excuses like, "It's gay" to not do it. You have the guts to try longboarding and go down a parking garage with no way to brake on your very first day without getting any severe road rash. That's better than me. So keep going and don't give up.

EDIT: Get some slide gloves if you don't have any. Are you trying standup slides? Learning standup slides before hands-down slides is pretty hard. It's easier to slide if your hands are on the ground and you want slide gloves for obvious reasons.

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Good advice from Norminator. I'm a bit older than you, Baden, and not caring about douchiness either.

I have exactly the same feeling of twitchiness with the board, which I'm attributing to lack of skill. I'm a little farther along than you in the foot-braking dept, I think, because I like to be able to stop before I try to go.

Anyway, lots of fun, even if I'm just tooling around the street in our cul-de-sac.
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WARNING: I do not know as much as some other people, so take this with a grain of salt until Boarderaholic chimes in.

Did you ever longboard/ skateboard before? If no, then you've probably realized that longboarding feels very different from snowboarding. It'll take you some time to get used to it. As a beginner, you'll be unfamiliar with the board and your stiff legs/lack of experience/no control will make the board feel twitchy. Just practice, practice, and practice some more. Practice in between practices as well.

You could possibly get harder bushings but I was under the impression that stock bushings on trucks are usually really hard. You should be fine. But it doesn't hurt to experiment so you could look into some barrel bushings in the 88-93a range for your weight. The higher number means the bushing is harder and more stable and less turny.

Always learn to footbrake first. It may slow you down slower than slides and chew through your shoes, but it is really important to learn how to footbrake. It'll get you out of sketchy situations like when you're going too fast on a narrow sidewalk and don't have space to slide. If it was your first day longboarding, then you probably will not have slides down. Sorry to be a debby-downer. Just keep going and learn to footbrake (google helps).

AND, don't worry about being 39. I don't care if your old, young, middle age, whatever, I'm glad as long as someone new is trying longboarding and discovering it. Many 15-year-olds don't have the balls to step on a longboard and use excuses like, "It's gay" to not do it. You have the guts to try longboarding and go down a parking garage with no way to brake on your very first day without getting any severe road rash. That's better than me. So keep going and don't give up.

EDIT: Get some slide gloves if you don't have any. Are you trying standup slides? Learning standup slides before hands-down slides is pretty hard. It's easier to slide if your hands are on the ground and you want slide gloves for obvious reasons.
Thanks for the advice. I've never even stood on a longboard and have very little skateboard experience. I rode when i was a young kid and own one now, but I never really did much beside attempt ollies. So I am a complete noob on rolling boards I guess.

I have watched a bunch of foot brake videos and coleman slide videos. I realize I gotta stop first and foremost. I'll work on that until it's second nature but I'll also continue in the parking garage where I can control my speed with turns as well.

I've got some gloves coming. I was kinda trying to slide standing up but I've read enough on here and silverfish to realize that was a pipe dream. It sure felt like I was right on the verge of getting though. I'll definitely go through the proper steps to progress. That helped my snowboarding this year more than ever. In the past I just kinda bombed the hills and never took a lesson or really cared about technique. This year I watched a shitload of videos and had better riders critique me and I went from a strong beginner to mid-high intermediate (at least in my mind). It helped that I went 25 times in one season.

I can't believe how much my ankles hurt this morning. I'm a very active guy and run half marathons, mountain bike, hike, run trails, etc and my ankles have never hurt like this. I'm always amazed at how every sport uses completely different muscles.

I rode for another hour last night in the drive and the board felt a lot more stable. I think it is all lack of skill on the twitchiness.

Donutz, on the foot braking, is it natural to feel very unstable with only 1 foot on the board while trying to stop? I feel like I have zero control with my front foot pointed straight forward and trying to ease my back foot to the ground. I'm sure it's gonna take a few hours to get that process down.

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Donutz, on the foot braking, is it natural to feel very unstable with only 1 foot on the board while trying to stop? I feel like I have zero control with my front foot pointed straight forward and trying to ease my back foot to the ground. I'm sure it's gonna take a few hours to get that process down.

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I found that there's a "sweet spot" where you've got the weight distributed just right between the board foot and the dragging foot, where you don't feel as out of control. Took a while to find it, but now I can step into that stance about 3/4 of the time. Mind you, I'm wearing deck shoes with a sole that isn't too sticky. First time I tried with runners I almost did a splits. I don't doubt that experienced riders can do this with any shoe, but I'm not there yet.
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Glad your having fun! When I first started it was a love hate relationship, mostly because I couldn't stop so I was scared to get going fast and there was always this underlying feeling of loss of control. That was the biggest difference between longboarding and snowboarding, the inability to stop at will.

I made some slide gloves out of nice work gloves and a couple sizes of UHMWPE plastic. Once I had the gloves on I would just start putting my hand down and sliding out to a stop, practiced this until I could do it anywhere. Learning to safely stop anywhere, anytime was a game changer. Since then I've learned to stop with a stand up slide if I'm not going to fast and scrub tons of speed with speed checks, FS and BS slides around corners with my hands down and FS standups... all which require a lot of speed so knowing you can stop is #1.

So ya, get those gloves and learn to stop ASAP.

As for foot braking, ya it can feel pretty unstable even for me and I've been skateboarding a long time. I only really do this from slower speeds.

FYI - Imade my own gloves because the pucks wear so fast. I got 20" lengths of plastic, some about 4" and some 2" and then I cut them to about 3/8" thick and glue them on. WAY cheaper then buying them for $20/set or more for replacement pucks. I got the plastic at a specialty plastic supplier in my city.

Oh and for the twitchyness, thats a preference thing. I fall off a board that has tight trucks/stiff bushings... hate it! But other people think my shits way too loose, helps me slide a lot though and get really good carves and speed checks. I skateboard with very loose trucks too... I've always found beginners to ride tight and more advanced skaters tend to end up on the loose side. Again, just a preference thing, change it until it feels right for you.

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So, I bought this the other day... *slobber*
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