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post #991 of 3840 (permalink) Old 08-29-2013, 11:44 AM
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Wow, I missed this. Condolences man. That is just horrible.
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Areveruz, I missed that too... Condolences for your lost. That's awful!



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Ask me how I know what it's like to see two of your horses/the trailer careen past your tow vehicle and proceed to gain speed across the grass median into three lanes of oncoming traffic on a busy interstate. .
Wow... sounds horrible! Don't you have a emergency break cable attached to the car that immediately pulls the hand break of the trailer if it detaches from the hitch? That's mandatory here.

I've lost a trailer once while crossing a rail way, the hitch comming off over the bumps (and due to the break cable, it stopped immediately ON the rail way crossing). Luckily, the trailer was empty and I could push it away quickly

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Wow... sounds horrible! Don't you have a emergency break cable attached to the car that immediately pulls the hand break of the trailer if it detaches from the hitch? That's mandatory here.

I've lost a trailer once while crossing a rail way, the hitch comming off over the bumps (and due to the break cable, it stopped immediately ON the rail way crossing). Luckily, the trailer was empty and I could push it away quickly
Don't you guys have chains?!? Never lost a trailer, but we use crossover chains between the trailer and the hitch. If the ball pops off, or something comes undone, the idea is that the chains make a cradle for the tongue to sit it.

No, not chomps' tongue. That thing needs to be cut off!
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Don't you guys have chains?!? Never lost a trailer, but we use crossover chains between the trailer and the hitch. If the ball pops off, or something comes undone, the idea is that the chains make a cradle for the tongue to sit it.
No, never heard of, never seen. And pretty sure, it would be forbidden. We have very strickt laws. Every "modification" on a vehicle needs to be approved by officials. But it sounds interesting. Got pics?

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No, never heard of, never seen. And pretty sure, it would be forbidden. We have very strickt laws. Every "modification" on a vehicle needs to be approved by officials. But it sounds interesting. Got pics?
Holy crap! It's standard here in Canada, not sure about the states. Every trailer I've ever pulled has them. Here's a couple pics.



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Holy crap! It's standard here in Canada, not sure about the states. Every trailer I've ever pulled has them. Here's a couple pics.
Standard in the states too.
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No, never heard of, never seen. And pretty sure, it would be forbidden. We have very strickt laws. Every "modification" on a vehicle needs to be approved by officials. But it sounds interesting. Got pics?
I'd be afraid to drive behind vehicles with trailers where you live!

I've had a trailer pop off the ball once, the bolt that holds the coupler in was loose and fell out, luckily I was on a road in the middle of nowhere, It just came off the ball and dragged behind me. A friend of mine wanted me to haul it to his new place.

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I'd be afraid to drive behind vehicles with trailers where you live!

I've had a trailer pop off the ball once, the bolt that holds the coupler in was loose and fell out, luckily I was on a road in the middle of nowhere, It just came off the ball and dragged behind me. A friend of mine wanted me to haul it to his new place.
Yeah, so many things that can go wrong in the system. Hitch pin can break/fall out, ball could break/fall out, socket could come off ball...

Neni, usually the chains are mounted back about 1' on the tongue, either welded or bolted in place. On the vehicle they attach to holes beside the receiver so they're completely separate from the ball system.

The entire hitch assembly, or the entire tongue on the trailer would have to come off for the system to separate!
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Okay so here's what happened. The abrupt braking caused the trailer to essentially jack-knife a bit (except vertically, not horizontally); the bolt the cotter pin feeds through broke, the hitch popped off, and the force of a large, heavy, steel 4-horse trailer carrying 2 horses and going around 65mph was enough to severe the chains and brake cables.

I've been hitching trailers since single digits age and can do so in the dark and in my sleep. In fact, some early morning launches were just that ha. Everything was in place that morning, and double-checked by another (standard procedure). Although I can't recall who it was that hitched that particular day. Regardless, it was all in place.

Yes it was scary. I still remember vividly one of horses looking at the truck as he passed us, wide-eyed and forelock blowing in the wind as the trailer careened past nose-up.

Fortunately, it occurred during an empty stretch of the heavy on-coming traffic and the trailer was stopped on the grassy shoulder by a small sapling - thank God for that sapling! - just before encountering the cement overpass wall several yards ahead.

Horses were fine; trailer was not as the driver of the truck attempted to first veer in front when it broke free to stop it, leaving a crater indentation in the nose. There was a quarter-sized dent in the tow vehicle however.
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Yeah, so many things that can go wrong in the system. Hitch pin can break/fall out, ball could break/fall out, socket could come off ball...

Neni, usually the chains are mounted back about 1' on the tongue, either welded or bolted in place. On the vehicle they attach to holes beside the receiver so they're completely separate from the ball system.

The entire hitch assembly, or the entire tongue on the trailer would have to come off for the system to separate!
I see the advantage of the system.
I've lost my trailer since the hitch wasn't attached to the ball but laying ON the ball, my bad. Since then I double check that.
Have many friends pulling horses many years and only heard of one case when the trailer came off due to a system defect. Guess, it's not happening a lot... Trailers need to be approved every second year to refresh the street permission. How's the frequency at yours?

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