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Old 09-18-2011, 11:14 PM   #21 (permalink)
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For $3500 you are correct that any Subaru WRX in that price range is a POS. I just bought a 1998 Subaru Legacy GT Wagon (5-spd) for $4750 at the end of last winter. Only 107k on the clock. Its the 2.5L 4-cyl and gets about 25-27mpg. Its an awesome car if you can get beyond the wagon (I love their wagons & its perfect for extra people / gear storage). That being said, it sits WICKED low to the ground. Now the bad part about Subarus. The year range you can afford they all have the same motors (only difference is a 2.2 or a 2.5). Head gaskets can be a common problem in a lot of them and that is an expensive fix. So if you are looking into a Subaru from 96-02 ask the seller if they have ever had it replaced. If its leaking oil or coolant....walk away, its a problem waiting to happen.

I also have a 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee that I picked up for $1600 last month. I have always been a Jeep guy. My last Grand Cherokee I rode until it had 236,000 miles on it and it was still running strong. I dont know how you feel about SUVs, however, if a Jeep breaks....its easy and cheap to fix (most of the time). Parts are cheap, and most of the time you can find a DIY thread online on how to fix most things (within reason obviously). That and if we have another winter in the NE like we did last year, you will be glad you are sitting up high in an AWD SUV.

I actually have a CARFAX account with 2 unused CARFAX uses left on it after I bought my Jeep. I don't think there's a time frame you need to use em by, so if they are still good just PM me with 2 VINS and ill run em for you.
I just went through all this car buying fun about 6 months ago. Another thing to watch out with in Subarus for that same year range was wheel bearings. Especially on Foresters.

I ended up finding an upper model '99 Pathfinder for 7500.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:39 PM   #22 (permalink)
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dude i'm in the 518 half the cars i see on craigslist are stolen ricers.
GET a MUSTANG!!!
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Old 09-19-2011, 12:03 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Another funny thing about subarus. The STI is cheaper to insure than the WRX. I am not even making this up. like dramatically cheaper.
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volvos, owned, 2x240, 2x740 and now have a v40. The 240/740 are bricks reliable as far as engine and drive trains but the trim stuff can be funky, and some parts are pricey to fix but you can do diy, the newer v's even more pricey to fix and less diy...thing abt volvos is that they require regular maintenance to keep going and if you can't do the diy...service is expensive. The rwd and fwd volvo work but not particularly snow friendly.

If you want cheap beater snow cars that go forevar find a toy alltrac or tercel 4wd (legit snow car) or get a rwd (add weight over the rear wheels) with manual 5sp and some good snow tires; I've had 2 tercels, 2 corrolla and alltrac...each with close to or over 300k. They are cheap to fix and insure compared to a volvo. Imo toys are better in the snow than volvos..but have never owned a 4wd volvo.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:38 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Another funny thing about subarus. The STI is cheaper to insure than the WRX. I am not even making this up. like dramatically cheaper.

I don't doubt it. My '04 WRX was about $2,400 per year to insure (I'm 32 BTW)

$3,000 per year when I lived in Brooklyn.


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Old 09-19-2011, 03:45 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Im gonna give it to you straight.

Your a young kid, got along way to go...my suggestion, have your parents help you out and get either a kia or a Hyundai because they come with a 10 year , 100k mile warranty and the cars are cheap price wise. Quality they are there no doubt.....
I got a ride in my friends new forte the other day, they are superb cars. But alas, my parents are definitely not helping me with a car. I don't really feel like going into details, but my dad's losing custody and he was the reason I don't have my license right now because he doesn't want me driving until I'm 18. My mom is supporting me getting a car, but she doesn't have enough money to help me out. The Elantra GT is nice and affordable when used, but I really want awd.
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dude i'm in the 518 half the cars i see on craigslist are stolen ricers.
im in the 518 also ..i think any of the cars you posted from autotrader would work, i personally would go for the subarus or a saab. Im 16 and would love to get my own car but my parents pretty much told me i cant get one even if i bought it myself haha.

Where do u do most of your riding? 90% of the time im at Gore..i actually just got hired there as an instructor. i wish i could get a car
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Kids, driving these days is expensive...been driving my own vehicles since 14 yrs old (good old farm permits). My 17 yr old daughter, has a permit and once she gets a license my insurance goes up 1K per year even if she only drives my beater 91 volvo 745. She can get her license when she has a job that pays well enough for her to pay insurance and some gas...so far she has decided that she rather buy new skis, AT bindings and skins so that she can go bc touring. Last year, she was also an instructor at the hill that is 57 miles away but managed to find rides to the hill 4-5 days/wk....living the life...this year her senior project and her last required pe credits involve skiing at the hill.
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get a 91 civic that sounds good and doesnt leak oil or have any exhaust problem and put snow tires on it.

reading this thread now compared to when it started makes me realize you are in a dream world thinking about awd and turbo. of course you can get them, but the one you can afford is going to be a giant POS compared to a better running honda or toyota. as long as you get front wheel drive, it honestly performs just as well in snow as awd unless you are rallying.

u can rally up the mountain in your awd turbo when you can afford it, right now u just need to get wheels.

otherwise who doesnt want a nissan skyline twin turbo awd?

edit* suggestion applies not only to price of car but also to price of insurance. if someone GAVE you a 2005 WRX could you even AFFORD to drive it!?

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im in the 518 also ..i think any of the cars you posted from autotrader would work, i personally would go for the subarus or a saab. Im 16 and would love to get my own car but my parents pretty much told me i cant get one even if i bought it myself haha.

Where do u do most of your riding? 90% of the time im at Gore..i actually just got hired there as an instructor. i wish i could get a car
Yeah man, looking into the volvo I got sketched out but I checked out some of the subies the dealer had. I think I'll keep looking for an 02 Legacy GT Limited or something with around 110k- hard to find for the price but possible if I look hard enough. My parents said the same thing, but in the last week there's been quite a turn of events and I'm trying to prove my responsibility to my mom. Seems to be working so far. Where are you at? I'm in Niskayuna, if you go to Maple theres a decent chance we've run into each other at some point!
But I ride around Vermont at Pico, Mt. Snow, and Bromley. I like Jiminy too but didn't go last season. If you want, I can always let you know if me and my friends have room in the car. We're going to try and go as many Saturday's as we can this season....
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Kids, driving these days is expensive...been driving my own vehicles since 14 yrs old (good old farm permits). My 17 yr old daughter, has a permit and once she gets a license my insurance goes up 1K per year even if she only drives my beater 91 volvo 745. She can get her license when she has a job that pays well enough for her to pay insurance and some gas...so far she has decided that she rather buy new skis, AT bindings and skins so that she can go bc touring. Last year, she was also an instructor at the hill that is 57 miles away but managed to find rides to the hill 4-5 days/wk....living the life...this year her senior project and her last required pe credits involve skiing at the hill.
Yes sir it is very expensive! Most insurance quotes I've seen are around 2200 on my own policy and 1500 on my moms. My friend pays 1300 on his parents policy. He told me he'd find out who they have. I have a pretty good gig right now at starbucks, making $110ish a week working 11 hours. However if the car requires more, they are available. But I think I'll be able to manage on that and have a little spending money left over. Your daughter does sound like she's got something good at the hill, I would love to be an instructor when I'm not working my other job but my lack of car prevents that.
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