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Old 11-30-2011, 01:59 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Haha subies aren't bad, just the hippies that drive em lol. They are pretty fun, but I wouldn't be totaly confident in one in really bad weather, I like the high ground clearence, big tires, and the confidence that I can pretty much plow through anything with a truck

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dam, i love off roading, and i dig slower technical trails, but i dont think im brave enough to do any shit even near that, considering this taco is also my DD
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:34 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I wouldn't trade my 1994 Chevy K Blazer 4x4 for anything. There's no stoppin her.
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:18 AM   #33 (permalink)
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dam, i love off roading, and i dig slower technical trails, but i dont think im brave enough to do any shit even near that, considering this taco is also my DD
My TJ was still my DD back then too. That was in Carnage Canyon just north of Boulder back in the summer of '02. I drove it across the country from NC a couple of months prior and then after a whole summer of stuff like that, drove it back across the country. All in all, it's made 4 NC to CO drives and more drives from central VA to Charleston, SC than I can recall.

It hasn't been a DD since '05 though.
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:42 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Yay! Jeep talk!

Here is mine!


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Old 11-30-2011, 11:59 AM   #35 (permalink)
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A wrangler will go in snow, and handle deep gnarly snow really well, but they aren't stable. I spun on the interstate going straight at 45mph on a slightly snowy/icy road. lol. When I had a jeep I didn't plow our driveway at all. We just drove over the huge pile that the snowplow leaves at the end of your driveway. Now with our subby we have to clear the snow again.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:08 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Yeah, my Tahoe is better on plowed roads in the snow than the Jeep. I only break out the Jeep in the snow when it gets deeeeeeep.

Short wheelbase is not your friend when it comes to stability at speed. Same as a you're generally more comfortable at speed on a longer snowboard. It's just more stable.
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Old 11-30-2011, 02:22 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I grew up driving a wrangler (YJ) in rural Vermont where they don't plow the roads very often and ice is a normal part of life.

Just like any vehicle.
The more you know how it reacts the less likely you are to run into trouble.

I wouldn't suggest any new-to-winter driver and/or new-to-wrangler driver to attempt to drive one in winter conditions.
Especially if the person is used to driving something like a Subaru or longer SUV.
The wrangler, especially the 2 door, can be a little twitchy on ice.

That all being said. There isn't another vehicle I'd rather have in the winter.

My little wrangler has played tow truck on many many occasions driving to Kirkwood.
An Xterra, a FJ, a 4 door wrangler (case of inexperienced winter/wrangler driver), and a CRV.
Oddly enough. Because of the chain requirements, I tend to see more 4x4s off the road than FWDs.

Which goes back to my original point.

MOST of the time when you see people off he road. It is due to operator error and/or improper equipment.
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woa woa woa, one was fine, but there are WAY too many jeep-tards in the tacoma thread...gtfo haha.
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back before I chopped the fenders off:


Linville - How did you get "into" off-roading?

I just moved to CO (well about 9-10 months ago) from super-flat MI, and I'm considering getting a Jeep (would really like to get a 2012 JK Rubicon Unlimited... we'll see though, as they're about $40k+).

Are there easy trails to get into, build your skill/navigating, before you get into the one in your photo?
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uuummmm, fuck no. camper shells are hideous, they add unnecessary weight, and i dont need one. I hate em with a passion lol. i will never have a camper shell as long as i live
Yeah I could see how one would think they're ugly, I used to hate them as well.

I just do a lot of camping as well as boarding and I love the idea of having a portable mini-apartment. I love everything about them. It just makes the truck so much more useful. I couldn't care less about looks, I am way over that phase. Also being able to lock everything up because I am paranoid about someone stealing my shit.
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