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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-30-2012, 01:35 PM
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One of the places where I swing right is I think the death penalty is completely reasonable in some circumstances. You shouldn't apply it "casually", but in this case I don't think you'd have any problem finding volunteers to push the button.
Yeah, there are those that say it is not a deterrent because people of this mindset do not fear death. My comment back is that people who commit horrible crimes do not deserve the right to live off the families of their victims (i.e. societies tax dollars).

If convicted by a fair trial, nuke them and get these wastes of skin off the planet.

If I had to pick a religion I'd pick buddhism, I wonder what the Dalai Lama suggests for situations like this?
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Yeah, there are those that say it is not a deterrent because people of this mindset do not fear death. My comment back is that people who commit horrible crimes do not deserve the right to live off the families of their victims (i.e. societies tax dollars).

If convicted by a fair trial, nuke them and get these wastes of skin off the planet.

If I had to pick a religion I'd pick buddhism, I wonder what the Dalai Lama suggests for situations like this?
This shitty thing is that this is going to be dragged out for a very long time, and the media will be more than happy to make a circus out of. It's going to cost millions of taxpayer dollars and clog up our court systems for quite a while. Though they could save a lot of time and money by sticking him in the jail's general population to let things work themselves out

It would be interesting to get a Buddhist's view on how to deal with such an issue.

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I remember when Tim McVeigh did his shit my cousin was dating his sister, not that families proudest moment.
Wow. That hits pretty close to home.

My wife's uncle was the Unibomber's neighbor up in Montana while he was on assignment as a geologist when he was doing his thing. He said the guy was weird as hell and definitely a recluse, but no one really thought anything of it. You run into a lot of those types in areas like that. You generally don't live in the middle of nowhere because you're so sociable.
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He said the guy was weird as hell and definitely a recluse, but no one really thought anything of it. You run into a lot of those types in areas like that. You generally don't live in the middle of nowhere because you're so sociable.
It's funny because I have plans to either move to the mountains and live a more reclusive life, or possibly move to the family cottage in central Ontario. At the moment though I'm more social than ever always hanging out with the neighbours!
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Yeah, there are those that say it is not a deterrent because people of this mindset do not fear death.
You don't put down a vicious dog to deter other dogs. You put it down so it doesn't attack anyone else. It's not revenge, it's cleanup.


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You don't put down a vicious dog to deter other dogs. You put it down so it doesn't attack anyone else. It's not revenge, it's cleanup.
Best analogy I've heard in ages!
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If only it wouldn't take millions and millions of taxpayer dollars to keep this guy in jail until he dies from something else than a needle or a button, I would love to see this guy rot in jail until he's 80. I'd put him in a cell that is barely big enough for him to fit in.
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If he is put in prison one of two things will happen:

1. He will get killed by the other inmates right away

2. Get put in solitary confinement and protected from the other inmates.

If the first one happened I'd be all for it, but it won't. Same thing happened with Mark Chapman. He would have been out of prison a long time ago, but he is kept in there for his own protection and is kept isolated from the other inmates.

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Due to the appeals process, it's actually cheaper to sentence someone to life in prison than it is to give them the death penalty.

If he gets life, he'll he in protective custody. That pussy wouldn't last 15 minutes in general population. Some things aren't even acceptable to the scum of society. Crimes against children first and foremost, but I think shooting up a theater full of innocent people would qualify as well.
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Due to the appeals process, it's actually cheaper to sentence someone to life in prison than it is to give them the death penalty.

If he gets life, he'll he in protective custody. That pussy wouldn't last 15 minutes in general population. Some things aren't even acceptable to the scum of society. Crimes against children first and foremost, but I think shooting up a theater full of innocent people would qualify as well.
I never knew it's cheaper to give him life in prison than the death penalty. I say let his ass rot in prison for the next 50 or 60 years. There's no doubt he'd be dead within 10-15 minutes when he's put in general population. As soon as those gates open up he'll get beaten/stabbed to death. That's a MUCH cheaper death penalty.
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