Looking at a new bike - Ninja 650 or SV 650 - Page 2 - Snowboarding Forum

hikeswithdogs · 10-18-2012, 09:36 AM

Loved my SV , it's got a more upright seating positioning so those long rides an commuting were allot easier to deal with than with the Ninja 636 and gixer I had afterwords.......then I got dogs, moved to the country and sold all my bikes.

roremc · 10-22-2012, 11:06 AM

Thanks for the info guys! After lots of reading I think I am going to go with the SV. I am going to hold off though. Riding season is over here and the other riding season is about to start! : ) I am told if I wait till closer to Christmas the bikes will just get cheaper!

Poutanen do you not have a bike at all anymore? The riding around Banff is going to be awesome next season. So many good roads. And then you have BC! Enough said

poutanen · 10-22-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by roremc

Poutanen do you not have a bike at all anymore? The riding around Banff is going to be awesome next season. So many good roads. And then you have BC! Enough said

Yeah I sold it back in Ontario. Plus there's only a 5 month riding season here, while in Ontario there was one year I was on my bike for a full 10 months!

I might start looking again though, I'd love to have a little toy to drive around on the weekends...

HWY 93 heading towards radium is excellent, but always so much traffic. Maybe that's just the times I've been on it. Then there's HWY 40 on the north side of HWY 1. Went horseback riding up there a couple years ago and the roads were nice and twisty!

john doe · 10-22-2012, 05:59 PM

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Remember that the smaller displacement bikes are lighter and can be tossed around like a hooker on her prom night. Nothing wrong with the sub 600 series bikes as fun toys! In fact because you can wring their necks without breaking the sound barrier, I'd say they're possibly MORE fun than bigger bikes.

That's one of the things I keep telling my self. Going from my current Nighthawk to the Ninja 300 I would drop almost 60lbs of weight. Even from a modern SV650 it would be over 40lbs. In my ideal world I would have a 300 and a supersport. One for just cruising around and one for when I want to got FAST. I can't have 2 bikes so getting an SV650 is a good middle ground and most likely where I will end up.

poutanen · 10-22-2012, 06:46 PM

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That's one of the things I keep telling my self. Going from my current Nighthawk to the Ninja 300 I would drop almost 60lbs of weight. Even from a modern SV650 it would be over 40lbs. In my ideal world I would have a 300 and a supersport. One for just cruising around and one for when I want to got FAST. I can't have 2 bikes so getting an SV650 is a good middle ground and most likely where I will end up.

Nothing wrong with an SV650. I actually missed my FZ6 a bit when I went to the R1. First gear would do 160 km/h on the R1 so I could never wring it's neck without breaking every law in Ontario. Planned a few track days but never got out (except the 1/4 mile a few times)...

After this thread I started looking into used FZR400s and I could get one for about $2500-3000 and insure it for $350 a year. Not a bad idear!

roremc · 10-24-2012, 11:11 AM

160 is first! Thats nuts!

poutanen · 10-24-2012, 01:42 PM

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160 is first! Thats nuts!

Yep, they geared it tall because the 1L already has way more torque than a 600. If it had a shorter first gear and you had a twitchy throttle hand it'd be lights out...

Here's me trying my bike out at Toronto Motorsports Park. There's a boring section at the start of run 2 so fast forward past that. And for those that will say a 10.7 is slow, thanks professor, I was having fun on a bone stock 2005 R1 and was just trying to improve on my times without breaking the bike or myself. Mission accomplished! The speedo is in kph and the light that keeps flashing on the right is the shift light, somewhere around 11,000 rpm.

john doe · 10-25-2012, 07:43 AM

Yeah. I would never have a liter bike or any supersport. They just seem like constant frustration. They aren't made to be going UNDER 100mph. The funny thing about bikes is that an SV650 would be considered a slow bike by a lot of people but it is still almost as fast as a new Mustang GT500.

poutanen · 10-25-2012, 08:28 AM

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Yeah. I would never have a liter bike or any supersport. They just seem like constant frustration. They aren't made to be going UNDER 100mph. The funny thing about bikes is that an SV650 would be considered a slow bike by a lot of people but it is still almost as fast as a new Mustang GT500.

Oh the R1 was a joy to ride, I just would have enjoyed owning it in a country/province with much more lenient traffic/speed laws than Ontario!

Yeah, my FZ6 ran 12.0 flat 1/4 miles at the same track that I ran the R1. I played with a viper at a light one day and we were shooting the shit at the next light... He said the bike was fast, and I said it was a 600 sport touring bike.

There's just no comparison between cars and bikes, and I almost feel like my senses have been tainted. I bought a 300 RWHP MR2 Turbo after I sold my bike, and the thing was bloody fast, but it felt slow. A 2600 pound car with 300 RWHP is not slow!

ttchad · 10-25-2012, 08:38 AM

It sure is nice though being able to use the power from 2000-10000. On a liter bike you would never have to change gears. On a 600 your feet would either fall asleep from the constant buzz/vibes or from shifting. Just get a new BMW superbike. You know you want it! It is true you would never use more than 110 of the horses though. Maybe 140 if you were on the track.

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roremc Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Banff, Alberta Posts: 1,107	Thanks for the info guys! After lots of reading I think I am going to go with the SV. I am going to hold off though. Riding season is over here and the other riding season is about to start! : ) I am told if I wait till closer to Christmas the bikes will just get cheaper! Poutanen do you not have a bike at all anymore? The riding around Banff is going to be awesome next season. So many good roads. And then you have BC! Enough said __________________ So many runs so little time.

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roremc Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Banff, Alberta Posts: 1,107	160 is first! Thats nuts! __________________ So many runs so little time.

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john doe Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,246	Yeah. I would never have a liter bike or any supersport. They just seem like constant frustration. They aren't made to be going UNDER 100mph. The funny thing about bikes is that an SV650 would be considered a slow bike by a lot of people but it is still almost as fast as a new Mustang GT500. __________________ 2011 Smokin Buck Ferton 155 2013 Flow NX2-SE 2013 Flow Hylite boa Burton Stagger pants/jacket Smith I/O

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10-25-2012, 08:38 AM	#20 (permalink)
ttchad Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bella Napoli! Posts: 178	It sure is nice though being able to use the power from 2000-10000. On a liter bike you would never have to change gears. On a 600 your feet would either fall asleep from the constant buzz/vibes or from shifting. Just get a new BMW superbike. You know you want it! It is true you would never use more than 110 of the horses though. Maybe 140 if you were on the track.