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Old 11-21-2012, 04:45 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ARSENALFAN View Post
I deal with motor vehicle fatalities. I swear by snow tires and so do all my accident reconstruction engineers. Best money you will ever spend. Do it.
Yuppers... Snows aren't just for snow! They're softer and have more slits in the tread blocks, so they'll grip on ice and cold pavement better.

You'll get better traction ALL YEAR ROUND if you have a set of summer performance tires for the summer, and winters for the winter.

Since we're on the subject, summer tires are much better than all seasons too. This coming from the guy that put his old MR2 into a concrete wall on the 401 in the rain (doing 110 km/h in the slow lane)...
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:08 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Skinny Bam View Post
How often if ever do they have chain laws in effect on the i-70 and other passes? And are you exempt if you have 4x4? I remember it being like that a few times driving up to Big Bear but only when they were getting dumped on...
I remember being in mandatory chainups in our cars in CA as a kid, but I've never seen it here in CO. I wonder if the maritime nature of west coast snow has any bearing or what, I know Snowolf has driven in shit weather everywhere, maybe he knows why.

Generally there are no chain laws here for normal civilian vehicles. It is not totally true, but most people have snowtires, 4x4 or both. All (i have heard of a couple small town/passes exceptions) of the mandatory chain ups are for big rigs.

I-70 is plowed pretty well. The new Cdot app is pretty sick for i70 denver-vail.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:16 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by snowklinger View Post
I-70 is plowed pretty well. The new Cdot app is pretty sick for i70 denver-vail.
Didn't realize they had an app, just downloaded it. Thanks

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Very cold snow is not all that slippery and in 20-30 below weather, its like driving on sand. Maritime snow sitting right at 32 degrees is the slimiest, slickest shit imaginable. Under any compression it turns into solid ice right under your tires.
Definitely one of my scariest driving experiences was last year when we were driving up the winding road that leads you up to Big Bear in early December in my buddies BMW. Twin turbo, low pro's and rear wheel drive as it started snowing

We couldn't even get chains because he had a special tire size and after talking to 2 different people that had slid off the road in 4x4's we decided we had to drive back down. Stayed the night and had to drive all the way back up in the morning to the mountain instead of staying in our Hotel that was 15 mins from Bear.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:46 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Snow tires....other drivers will also appreciate it.

Coming down from Baker on Wed opening day, snowed 11" during the stuck for 2 hours behind a 4-5 car pile up. A tow truck was pulling a car out of the ditch, when another car hit the car being pulled out of the ditch and then 3 other cars piled up. Going up and coming down was a pain in the ass...tourist not knowing the road, the conditions and not being prepared. On Tues my daughter and I changed out the 4 tires in 30 mins...not nascar pit speed but easy.
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Old 11-23-2012, 12:48 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Snow tires, without a shadow of a doubt. Its saved my butt in so many situations in the city that all seasons just wouldn't be able to hack. The roads have also gotten bad enough that you weren't allowed to drive up certain roads without winters. They're a bit expensive in the short term, but life saving in the long term.
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