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What are you talking about. THC stays in your system for weeks...that doesn't mean you're still high. Makes no sense from a legal point of view...
It doesn't matter if ur high, it matters if thc is detected....there is no mental status or sobriety test to determine to a legal standard..."highness", its a biologic or physiologic assay that you are prosecuted with....its really not if you are high or not, though if you are acting "high" it will give them "reasonable cause to stop you, do an investigation and determine if you are high...by doing an in mouth or serum assay. Perhaps I'm jaded, but now they can perhaps impound your car, fine you up your ass, loose a professional license, and perhaps confiscate your property and wages.


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It doesn't matter if ur high, it matters if thc is detected....there is no mental status or sobriety test to determine to a legal standard..."highness", its a biologic or physiologic assay that you are prosecuted with....its really not if you are high or not, though if you are acting "high" it will give them "reasonable cause to stop you, do an investigation and determine if you are high...by doing an in mouth or serum assay. Perhaps I'm jaded, but now they can perhaps impound your car, fine you up your ass, loose a professional license, and perhaps confiscate your property and wages.
the thc test will be analogous to the breathalyzer. they can't just stop people and test them because they feel like it or just for fun (in theory). they still need some kind of probable cause - the car smelling like weed, weaving thru traffic, a bong on your dashboard, grandpa cheech riding shotgun and taking shotguns, etc.

i'm also not really trying to advocate anything in particular here - just trying to clear up some details....
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you could always get a dui for smoking. before medical, after medical, before recreational, and now of course after.

the only difference now is i believe the WA authorities have created some sort of ppm scale or something like that that can somewhat reasonably detect the saturation of thc in the blood. i am somewhat dubious.

a dui for smoking never was a misdemeanor $100 ticket. its cuffs and a free ride, diversion, etc. unfortunately i know from experience (although OR)
Back in the day...the 70's before the war on drugs....possession of less than an ounce of weed was $100 misdemeanor ticket/citation, no jail, no booking, just pay the ticket....in NEBRASKA. And there was no highness issue.

Funny story, out partying with some buds, driving around. Get pulled over...don't remember for what...probably for being longhairs. PD make us empty our pockets, bags, pipe, joints and a couple of sugar cubes (that get unwrapped) out on the hood of the cruiser. So PD is standing around discussing what to do and one of the buds grabs the cubes and eats them. PD trys to make him spit them out...gone. So they haul all of us to jail, we go to general holding and the guy who ate the cubes goes to isolation/observation holding tank. Well the guy in the isolation sits there, is quiet, looks around and hangs. About 2 hours later, since none of us have been a problem or acting weird...they cut all of us loose. We all get a $100 ticket, call a friend to come pick us up. And the guy that ate the cubes is tripping his balls off and just smiling as we left booking.

I'm not advocating either side...just pointing out it is potentially a very bad law for folks who partake.

Also "reasonable cause" is a joke and is almost never argued at hearing...I think reasonable cause and due process ought to be but us poor bastards don't have the cash for a good attorney...and I can only imagine that an attorney would not try to win a case on the lack of "reasonable cause"


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hahahah nice
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Haha I live in Nebraska and I never knew this. Wish it was still like that.
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For me legalization dont mean much. It is what it is. People will either smoke and be happy or condemn and be justified.

As long as there is ground, sun, rain, heat and mother natures blessings then something to be considered "legal" or not by a human is completely irrelevant!
Means about 30% less kids on jail for smoking a joint. Means I feel much more relieved. How would you feel if you had to get a card to legally have a Sierra Nevada? (beer)

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a dui for smoking never was a misdemeanor $100 ticket. its cuffs and a free ride, diversion, etc. unfortunately i know from experience (although OR)

just curious how they determined you were smokin'?

I was pulled over for speeding in CA and my car smelled very strongly like weed. I was asked to get out of the vehicle and do a field sobriety test. I passed with flying colors and was let go. Well, minus the $600 speeding ticket

Now, I admit to nothing...but I have a feeling I would have failed any sort of blood/urine test at that point in time. So Im curiuous what's being done in other states..


oh and wrathful, that's an awesome story....sugar cubes lol


and in other 'the war on drugs is fucking lame' the nations first drug law was based on racism. Opium outlawed in 1875 to keep chinese people out of san francisco! http://www.naabt.org/laws.cfm

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Don't use it myself, but overall I think usage will go down. it doesnt have the 'forbidden fruit' element anymore. But, I'm in Wisconsin, so it will take forever to even make a bill for this. I dont like to be one to judge but, around here it is basically the rednecks of the north. They still think women shouldn't vote around here.
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Last day of Prohibition here. Going to work at 11pm and heading to Stevens Pass tomorrow to ride and smoke herbs legally. Hope every one else can do the same in the near future!
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