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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 06-15-2008, 12:48 PM
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Question Is this true or nonsense?

I got this information from a family member in a email, I believed it was forwarded to her. the information was sent in spanish, so I used a online translator to translate it to english, thats why it might sound funny when you read it. To be honest I don't feel like translating it to fucking long.


What do you think? is this info garbage or not?

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How to save gas by the way you fill up your tank....

1) It fills the tank early in the morning, that it is when the temperature of the Earth even this cold one. It remembers that all the powerboats have their buried tanks of storage under earth. It enters colder is the Earth, denser will be the gasoline. When the climate is warmer, the gasoline expands, reason why the gallon that it buys in the evening… no longer is exactly a gallon. In the business of petroleum, the specific gravity and temperature of the gasoline, diesel engine and gas-airplane, ethanol and other products of petroleum play an important role. An increase of 1 degree of the temperature is an important problem for this business. But the powerboats do not have a compensation by temperature in the pumps.

2) When it is filling the tank does not put the hose in fast way of expendio. If one pays attention, will see that the trigger has three (3) parts: slow, average and high. In slow way you must pump in low speed, of such way are reduced to the minimum the steam that are created while you are pumping. All the hoses in the pump have a steam return. If you are pumping fast, something of the liquid that goes to its tank turns into steam and return returns it to the steam to the tank of underground allmacenamiento of the powerboat, thus you are you paying more by less.

3) It fills the tank when it is to half, since more gasoline enters less air has in the tank habra occupying space and the gasoline evaporates more express than you imagine. The storage caves have a floating internal ceiling and it serves as a tolerance zero between the gas and atmosphere to them, reason why it diminishes the evaporation, and unlike the powerboats, here where work each truck that we loaded has a compensation against temperature reason why each gallon that we loaded is exactly a gallon.

4) If gasoline within the tanks is a truck pumping of storage, is not stopped to load gasoline, does not fill it, because the gasoline that is inside is being turned around and all the impurities that usually go away to the bottom could finish in their gasoline tank.

I wait for this helps to remove more benefit him from its. THEY PASS THIS VALUABLE INFORMATION TO ITS FRIENDLY AND RELATIVES .....

Even if it's true, how much gas could you really save, for all the trouble of doing that?

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Crap like this is why people should pay attention in physics and chemistry class. It's bogus

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It's a little hard to follow as to all the points in the translation. I think I could almost understand it as well in spanish.

Actually this is a hot topic right now. Several lawsuits about it. Do a google search with the term "hot gas" and you can learn more.

ABC News: Getting Ripped Off by 'Hot Gas'?


There are valid points in this if I read/interpret the interpretation correctly.

As temp's rise, gas expands. If you fill up in the morning, the gas is cooler, thus more dense, you get more gas, and you lose less to evaporation. If you want your money's worth, fill up in the morning.

Another tip was garbled. I think they basically said - if you see a tanker truck filling up the tanks at a gas station don't buy gas there. The refilling process stirs up the sediment in the underground tanks and that gets pumped into your tank. This is true. This is a big concern for the scooter community. Impurities like that can really screw up our fuel systems, carb's, jets, etc... It's not good for cars either.

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The first one is kinda true as petrol expands quicker than the volume of your tank if they are at the same temp, so filling up in the frecknn cold might get you..... an extra .4 of a litre
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I like biochemistry. I hate organic chemistry.

Don't start this discussion over at Modern Vespa : Index or you may be inundated by scooterists who will strongly dispute the filtering thing.


Here's a current thread on this very topic.

Modern Vespa : bad gas - drain or dilute?

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There are valid points in this if I read/interpret the interpretation correctly.

As temp's rise, gas expands. If you fill up in the morning, the gas is cooler, thus more dense, you get more gas, and you lose less to evaporation. If you want your money's worth, fill up in the morning.
That's not a tip, it's junk science by someone who sucks at math. ABC has always sucked at math.

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it rubs the lotion on it's skin!!!
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vespa is italian for wasp!

Just coz you don't understand it
Doesn't mean it makes no sense!
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it rubs the lotion on it's skin!!!
hey, it puts the joe dirt in the hole.
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I work in the petroleum business. When I load the tanker truck at the loading terminal the bill of lading will show two figures on it gross gallons and net gallons. The net is the amount corrected to 60 F. On a typical load of fuel I will load 11,300 gallons of fuel and say the fuel temperature is around 80F there wont be more than a 20 gallon difference. Another thing to consider is that regardless of it`s density, the fuel has a constant energy output in BTU`s since it is the gasoline vapor that explodes in the fuel/air mixture in the comustion chamber so what goes on in the tank makes next to no difference.
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thanks for typing it so I didn't have to

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