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post #51 of 61 (permalink) Old 08-06-2013, 11:18 AM
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I'm still unsure of if/how to proceed, so we're going to take it really slow and explore all our options. The thought of having a decent trailer/modular on the side of the property to start and then building does take some of the scariness away though. If time goes over you're not stuck with two mortgages, rent, etc.
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My father built his two story house (Provence style villa/bungalow) by himself, only things done by subs was the digging and pouring of the basements. The parents lived in a trailer the first time (nice thing to do in southern France ) and the first compartment that was masoned and roofed was a huge garage to store all the machines. A little insulated room for the winter was attached to this garage. Then the rest of the house was masoned and roofed during summer. He hired a subworker for this work to be faster and didnt need to get off the roof to fetch whatever. I did mason some walls as well. Its 15 years ago and the house is still solid . For the interior finttings they took their time. Room after room according to priorities (bathroom and kitchen were first); they still slept in the trailer which meanwhile got a nice shed and porch attached. If you don't mind living in a trailer, you don't have pressure of time. How the inside will look like changed a little from the initial plans since while building the house, strolling through building shops (?) they collected many new ideas. E.g. after the cellar digging they had heaps of nice rocks. He decided to not have an iron central fireplace but to coat it with some of these rocks.


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Ugh, all this talk makes me want to take some courses in carpentry, masonry, etc. I've done some basic remods with my cousin; wood floors, a deck, cabinets, but I would love to be knowledgeable enough to build most of my own house one day.

If you go through with this and need a grunt for a week I would def be interested, just need room & food!
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Very nice!!! Yeah I've seriously thought about getting rid of sod. We get good grass weather for May and June, but then it dries up bad for July-September. Have to water often and it just seems like a waste!
not to mention all the chemical weed killer...Im a fucking hippie about that shit. Anyway, it's pretty easy to do esp if you have an eye for design. Just do some research on native plants where you live. Oh wait, you have winter and freezing tempertures? Yeah....hm. Don't know if I can help you there because it rarely if ever gets below freezing where I am...

but I will say we paid under 50 bucks for two scoops of gravel. I think a scoop was like um...3 cubic feet 3 inches deep? I have no idea what Im talking about...it was a fuck ton of gravel, that's all I know. And less then 30 bucks for all those red tufty grassy things. Gravel, mulch and native grasses are amazingly cost effective and striking looking if I don't say so myself.


Epic, just do what I did...don't quit your day job, just date a carpenter/builder/painter who has all the tools including a table saw. It's much easier that way. I sit in a nice air conditioned office collecting a paycheck. Then I just give it to him to spend at home depot lol!! And every day I get to come home from work and inspect the progress...which is always awesome!


Oh and I am in the process of selling this house buying a total fixer at the top of a canyon. I just spent ten years fixing up that house (roof, plumbing, electrical, paint, trim, floors, bathroom) and Im going to sell it and start all over again. But hey, I will be at the top of the fucking canyon on the very edge of national forrest and hiking trails. YES!!!!!!!!! We don't have new houses where I live. or empty land, really.

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Epic, just do what I did...don't quit your day job, just date a carpenter/builder/painter who has all the tools including a table saw. It's much easier that way. I sit in a nice air conditioned office collecting a paycheck. Then I just give it to him to spend at home depot lol!! And every day I get to come home from work and inspect the progress...which is always awesome!
I would presume there is not a high supply of decent looking female builders... Haha. Otherwise I love the plan!
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I would presume there is not a high supply of decent looking female builders... Haha. Otherwise I love the plan!
there's not even a decent supply of male ones!!

I just got my offer accepted on the new place. Wheeee!! Home Renovation...it never ends, does it.

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there's not even a decent supply of male ones!!

I just got my offer accepted on the new place. Wheeee!! Home Renovation...it never ends, does it.
Congrats!

I dream of renovating and old farm house (around 200years). Love these buildings with all the old wood and truss... got a flat now in such an old farmhouse. There's hardly anything exactly vertical or horizontal, all timbers, floor and ceilings are a bit skewed.



Haha... one should have a car mechanicien, carpenter and a foreman in the circle of friends... my friends somehow are all left thumbed, as well as the hubby and the dad is too old. Can't have it all


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Congrats!

I dream of renovating and old farm house (around 200years). Love these buildings with all the old wood and truss... got a flat now in such an old farmhouse. There's hardly anything exactly vertical or horizontal, all timbers, floor and ceilings are a bit skewed.
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I love old buildings. Those pictures are gorgeous. I love wood beam construction!!! Where I am late 1800s is about as old as you can get. I renovated my 1921 Craftsman home and I love it dearly. Its got the most amazing woodwork and trim. All built out of termite resistant redwood. Found out so much history from all the demo/rebuilding. The people who lived there in the 40s did a lot of work to it as well. They just don't make homes like they used to. I refuse to live in a new construction. I just won't do it.

As much as i love my house Im going to sell it and move into another. This one was built in 1937 so it feels new to me!!! Not to mention it's another fixer and needs a shit ton of work.....Im sort of over the whole living in a constant work in progress but I will be moving from a so so urban area to a really nice neighborhood on a private street at 1500 feet elevation with a deck built over a hillside. That will make it all worthwhile right? Besides, the second time around I know what Im doing and have the money to do it.

My criteria for a boyfriend was "must be handy, must have tools"

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I love old buildings. Those pictures are gorgeous. I love wood beam construction!!! Where I am late 1800s is about as old as you can get. I renovated my 1921 Craftsman home and I don't make homes like they used to.

My criteria for a boyfriend was "must be handy, must have tools"
You'd like our alpine cabin. It was built somewhen mid 1700, completely of wood. Doing some soft renovation at the moment but want to keep the very basic touch of it with its iron hearth, soap stone stove and the antique doors and windows (that are useless in terms of insulation). Got electricity and warm water though, but still feels like a journey back in time to stay there.

Before moving to the countryside, I lived some years in the city. Couldn't anymore. You get used to the quiet. Only sounds I hear here are a font, heaps of swallows under the roof, ducks, frogs, and bells from the cows on the other side of the tiny lake. Oh, and from time to time the scary scream of a deer. Nice thing, it's only 5min drive to a highway (other side of the hill), and 15min to the center of the capital. Will be hard to find something equivalent to buy. Spent some days at a friends place outside London (supposed to be a calm suburb) and the traffic noise drove me mad.


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I hear ya. I am SO OVER living in the city. Where Im at now isn't bad. Im only about 6 miles from hiking trails and protected forrest but it's very urban and LOUD where I am at.

this is my new front yard...





and my new across the street neighbor...



Im meeting with someone today to talk about the foundation and pillars for the deck. I have two weeks to back out of the deal if I don't like what they say. Looks solid but I have a feeling we'll be replacing that wood with some trex in the near future! There's a water tower just up past the fence and past that is national forrest If it snowed where I live it would be sweet back country riding but...well we get ice every now and then

Oh and Neni there's lots of horse ranches not too far away

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Wow! what a stunning view! hope it turns out to be solid Very nice place to sit on the porch and sip a beer. And I guess, you've got a bigger garden to look after/shape.

Haha, you can tease me with horses . We live in a very horse unfriendly country... I'd live right up in the mountains if there wouldn't be the issue of no XC riding opportunities and lack of decent job offers in these valleys... Cities and XC riding concentrate in the flatlands here. Was thinking some seconds of applying for a postdoc in the UK (THE XC horse riding country in Europe) but giving up the mountains is simply no option. I'm looking for something to buy more than 5y now but haven't found anything decent (prices are crazy since about 3 years. You'll pay 1.5M for something with 5rooms, built in the 1970ies and with 1000m2 land in reasonable distance to a city). Home now isn't bad. It's "just" a rented flat, but the surrounding is as I like it:
and the second home during the weekend warrior season:

On the right side from the funnel, where the solid wooden wall is, would be the "living room". We're trying to get the permission to add an window there since the view would be very nice in winter. Not that easy... Swiss bureaucracy. Very strict rules, how big a window is allowed to be and you need to stick with an exactly mandated style of window - many tiny pieces of glass subdivided by bars (crown glass?). The older the building, the stricter the rules, even if it originally only was an alpine cow barn Hope, we'll get the allowance and work done till winter.


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