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Old 01-31-2013, 06:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ran across this, found it fascinating. Trying to find more about this.

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Here is a story worth sharing. A holy man in India claims that he has not eaten or drank anything for 70 years. Prahlad Jani is the 83-year old man who lives in a cave near Amba JI Temple without any kind of food or water. Mr. Jani claims that he has left his home at the age of seven, searching for spiritual mystery, and at the age of eleven years, he was blessed by holy goddess Amba. Ever since that blessing, Prahlad Jani claims that he lives without food and water as he has gained his sustenance from the nectar that filters down through a hole in his palate. His claims were scientifically studied by a team of 30 specialists during three weeks of a variety of tests at a hospital

Holy Man Claims to Have Lived Without Food, Water for 70 Years | Fox News
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting. Note though, that the study was done almost 3 years ago and that the study lasted 15 days, in which he was allowed to gargle water. Some claim the gargling of water is cheating, however tests showed his body functions were normal and in fact healthier than someone half his age. So there's apparently there's something to this. I wonder though, if he is as willing as I'm led to believe, why weren't more or at least one intensive study done? Interesting none the less.

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I believe 100% in the powers of meditation, but this is out to lunch! Even just by breathing your body is releasing moisture, so you would have to have some water intake. Maybe his cave is so extremely damp that water collects in his nose and gives him this drip?!? Only thing is he would still need electrolytes, protein, etc. just to continue to have a beating heart.

That said I have done fasts from 2-5 days (not the type where you're allowed to eat at night, but a true fast) with either juice, water or water and unsweetened green tea. The water fast with green tea each night was my favorite fast. It lasted for 4 days and I came out of it by drinking about one cup or juice on the 5th day, a few on the 6th, and back to whole food by the 7th day. It's amazing how much more energy you have, and less sleep you need, when you're not spending time digesting.

We eat ourselves sick!
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I did a 3-day fast as an experiment once. On the 3rd day in the evening, we were going to have a nice dinner. Now, I biked all over town on that 3rd day and I was feeling like utter crap/collapsing afterward. I also slept a lot during these 3 days.

My theory is that I needed energy and with nothing but water intake, where was I going to get that energy from? I have no idea how this guy is doing it, I'm hoping science can shed some light on this matter. Should make for an interesting paper!

Anyway, I had my dinner that night with no repercussions, I started feeling a lot better very soon thereafter.

Do we eat ourselves sick, or is it just those who eat too much?
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I did a 3-day fast as an experiment once. On the 3rd day in the evening, we were going to have a nice dinner. Now, I biked all over town on that 3rd day and I was feeling like utter crap/collapsing afterward. I also slept a lot during these 3 days.

Do we eat ourselves sick, or is it just those who eat too much?
90+% of us (me included) eat too much.

Not to come off as a jerk but did you do much research before you did that fast? It is quite safe to fast for a lot longer than three days, but your body is going though some weird things. The energy you use is coming from you, not just stored fat, but your muscles too will be consumed.

The fasting experts strongly suggest planning well before a fast.
- ease into it, switch to raw vegetables for a couple days before hand even (although sometimes if you ease into it too slowly it can cause a double bubble of hunger pains)
- focus on relaxation for the first couple days at least, or as much of the fast as possible... if you can be at a cottage reading, at home meditating, or if you play an instrument just lock yourself away for a couple days and play... Whatever relaxes you
- exercise is not suggested for noobs to fasting, I've only done 4 fasts or so over the years, and I wouldn't consider biking during that time, I'd maybe go for a nice walk through a forest, along a beach, etc. but nothing to really strain yourself
- ease out of the fast: your system has got used to going in slow motion, and consuming body stores of energy, fat and muscle, you don't want to shock it out of that! Have some fresh squeezed juice for lunch on the first day after the fast, and if you want to come out fairly quickly (if you're going back to work on the second day after the fast) you could have a medium sized helping of raw or steamed veggies for dinner

All this talk has me thinking about fasting this weekend! I've been sick for a couple days, so basically had nothing but thin soup, it wouldn't be a shock to my system to go to water and green tea for a couple days, although I think it is likely a bad idea for my immune system...
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90+% of us (me included) eat too much.

Not to come off as a jerk but did you do much research before you did that fast?
Oh... haha, no, we just went into it like stupid kids. Wasn't too bad though and you're right, I did almost nothing but sit in bed and read for most of it. Felt fine.

Now, we were also wondering if we should actually eat by the end, so one friend called his mom who's a doctor and she apparently said it was ok But like I said, I felt good after that, didn't think I was shocking my body. But maybe I was and just not feeling it.

I'm unlikely to try that again, I eat little enough as it is, heh. But I am taking note of what you said in case I do go for it again. Say, when I run out of money and can no longer buy food because I got too much snowboarding gear XD
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I'm unlikely to try that again, I eat little enough as it is, heh. But I am taking note of what you said in case I do go for it again. Say, when I run out of money and can no longer buy food because I got too much snowboarding gear XD
lol, I actually found fasting kind of fun in a sick and twisted way! Like an experiment on my body to see what it did.

I remember the weirdest craving was coming from from work and sitting in front of TV right away without making dinner. I felt like I should have been eating. Like my hands needed to do SOMETHING... ANYTHING!

In hindsight it's probably a good idea to have pre-planned things to take your mind off eating.

I wonder if you slept a lot because you were bored when you did it?!?
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I wonder if you slept a lot because you were bored when you did it?!?
I was bored! But there was also the annoying feeling of hunger. I would drink some water and then nap and it would stop bothering me, even after I woke up. Weird...
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That said I have done fasts from 2-5 days (not the type where you're allowed to eat at night, but a true fast) with either juice, water or water and unsweetened green tea. The water fast with green tea each night was my favorite fast. It lasted for 4 days and I came out of it by drinking about one cup or juice on the 5th day, a few on the 6th, and back to whole food by the 7th day. It's amazing how much more energy you have, and less sleep you need, when you're not spending time digesting.

We eat ourselves sick!
I find this very interesting, besides less sleep, and more energy, did you notice any effects on your mind? Did you experience more clarity of thinking? Any heightened senses? Things like that? Or on the other side a dulling of senses or thinking? Why did/do you do this? Is it to detoxify?
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I agree with Poutanen, we do often eat ourselves sick.

I've done 3 day fasts and the first two days you can almost taste the toxins coming out of you. By day 3 I'm always feeling great and have the idea I could go longer, I never do though.

One thing to be aware of with fasting, it farks with your metabolism. I dropped like 12 pounds on my most recent 3 day fast and then proceeded to gain 20 because my body went into survival mode and stored all my cals.
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