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mpdsnowman · 08-13-2008, 12:33 PM

Listen creep! Spare me your honor shit! I want that loan we lent you years ago paid back by the time I leave office!

PaoloSmythe · 08-13-2008, 12:39 PM

Hu isn't leaving office anytime soon.... so america has plenty of time to pay back its debts

PaoloSmythe · 08-13-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mpdsnowman

As far as the ticket sales goes...its expensive to fly and stay over there. It is truly only for locals or the rich or families of athletes to attend.

this is true; but there are many rich people in this world, and for them to snub attendence at this extravaganza must sting the ever hospitable chinese no? hence hide the empty seats!

if the ambition of global inclusion was realised, the seats would already be full.

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One cannot put aside the reality and presence of ...here honour is a main focus of the chinese ideal

thank you for the lesson; however the 'reality' that you wish to draw our attention to, is that this nation of honourability is lying thru its teeth to portray a success story, when really it is nothing of the kind.

there is no honour in deception, anymore than there is peace in shock and awe. allow reality to open your eyes, rather than rhetoric to close them me old china.

Snowjoe · 08-13-2008, 12:47 PM

I just thing its terrible how a girl who deserved a once in a lifetime opportunity of singing at the opening ceremony of the olympics was denied that.

Im also not looking forward to our attempt at the olympics in 2012, I just wish our government would just turn around and say that we cant afford the whatever billion it costs to inflict it upon London, I'm staying as far away from it as possible, maybe a season in New Zealand that year.

mpdsnowman · 08-13-2008, 01:46 PM

I dont know if "lying" is the correct term here. I didnt see or read anything that suggested that the illusions and mimmikry included in the performance was stated as "real". Perhaps the "assumption of reality" is more real than the reality itself..matter of fact I can take this a step further....

Do u remember when that globe popped up out of the center floor of the birds nest and all those acrobats were running around it?? Did u notice that around the shape of that huge globe some of the acrobats were running on the direct line of the equator? Did u see how the rest ran with the curve of the globe...

did you believe that was real??? did u believe that people actually can run upside down or sideways???

Bottom line it was a production..a very well thought out and implemented production. A production that will be hard to beat in any future olympics.

There were over 2000 people simutaneously beating a drum.
There were fireworks
There were performances.
Everyone was in awe....Lying is not an issue here....

Ahhhhhhh, that was very well put.....
Hmmmmm we could have used him years ago roy...

kri$han · 08-13-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PaoloSmythe

as far as the political ramifications of the games; consider the olympics as being a big party to which everyone is invited; but more importantly, it is a party that everybody knows everyone is invited.

china has used every aspect of political suggestion in the run up to the games from the very moment it was announced it would be holding them. it is an effort to gain acceptance and inclusion to a global community.

not to mention the tourism and HUGE revenue that the games generates for the hosting country. Hotels, transporation, food and other countless industries are used in excess generating tons of money for local businesses and stimulating the economy.

The games are highly political, but the competition isn't (or, shouldn't be)

u guys hearing about the chinese cheating in gymnastics now? Underaged gymnasts are giving them a flexibility, injury prevention and movement advantage

ridiculous.

PaoloSmythe · 08-14-2008, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mpdsnowman

I dont know if "lying" is the correct term here. I didnt see or read anything that suggested that the illusions and mimmikry included in the performance was stated as "real". Perhaps the "assumption of reality" is more real than the reality itself...

you are such a spanner MPD...... so it isn't inappropriate to promote falsities, coz it is the responsibility of others to perceive the deception?

so shooting victims are to blame for their deaths for not being quick enuff bullet dodgers? molestation victims are responsibile for their own plight coz they climbed inside your vanagon? do me a quaver!

point is.... the opening ceremony portrayed fireworks which were computer animations; it portrayed a girl who was miming; it presents support in the form of crowds, who are paid to be there.

do you pay people to attend your trade stands or barBQs and then claim that they are 'guests'?

and your image of ILLUSIONISTS is more appropriate than i suspect you intended!

nuff said.

PaoloSmythe · 08-14-2008, 06:20 AM

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not to mention the tourism and HUGE revenue that the games generates for the hosting country. Hotels, transporation, food and other countless industries are used in excess generating tons of money for local businesses and stimulating the economy.

until china; who are slashed hotel prices because no body was staying there.

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Airlines and hoteliers have been forced to cut prices by up to 50 per cent in an attempt to attract last-minute visitors to the Olympics in Beijing.

Chinese officials had predicted that up to two million tourists would visit during the Games, which run from August 8 to 24, with a third coming from abroad. Following a massive expansion programme, Beijing now has more than 800 star-ranked hotels, but the high demand expected has not materialised.

Beijing hotels drop prices as low turn-out hits Olympic Games - Telegraph

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u guys hearing about the chinese cheating in gymnastics now? Underaged gymnasts are giving them a flexibility, injury prevention and movement advantage

it is interesting that child labour issues in china only come to receive interntional criticism when it costs others the chance of medals! as if professional sports millionaires didn't already do enuff to undermine the integrity of olympic endeavour!

i had always thought these games were purely for amateur participants? any deviation from this, is worse cheating. (IMO)

thenightmare · 08-16-2008, 10:32 PM

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i am bemused.

nz - presumably you feel that dope testing of athletes is an unfair suppression of sporting endeavour?

afterall, imagine the spectacle, if all steroids were allowed to who ever would be willing to take the medical risks to dope themselves up to guarantee their success. just imagine the awe of seeing a 5 second 100m sprint, or a 10 m high jump.

mpd - for you to speak of honour is amusing... but what does that word mean to you exactly? is there honour in suggesting something to be genuine when it is a fiction (like computer annimated fireworks or lip synching children)? is there honour in telling a child that they are too ugly to be seen, but must sell their voice into the mouth of another? is this what you think is honourable?

is it honourable to report to the world over the sell out success of the games, when the stands remain mainly vacant?

if there is a case for honourable, sporting endeavour, then by anyone's standards, China is yet to even begin.

and then there are the promises of freedom of the press....

NDTV.com: China gags local media

MediaShift . Report from Beijing::China Partially Lifts Great Firewall for Media, but Access Remains Pricey | PBS

Epoch Times - Olympic Promises Broken: Freedom of the Press

ur right. there is no honor in lying. All China has been for centuries are posers. They pose as one of the richest countries in the world, true the government and a few companies are rich, but tons of their people are still starving. Also they try to pose as a military threat but have to hide behind a wall to keep from being wiped out by the huns. One billion people and they cant win a war? there's something wrong there.

Perpetual3am · 08-17-2008, 06:27 PM

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ur right. there is no honor in lying. All China has been for centuries are posers. They pose as one of the richest countries in the world, true the government and a few companies are rich, but tons of their people are still starving. Also they try to pose as a military threat but have to hide behind a wall to keep from being wiped out by the huns. One billion people and they cant win a war? there's something wrong there.

Posers? They built the GREAT wall of china, and in your mind that makes them pussies? Yeah, because no army builds defenses of any kind.