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PaoloSmythe · 08-12-2008, 09:13 AM

no need for bullshit and politics in olympic events.... it is all about good honest sporting endeavour and friendly, unifying competition...

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A pretty girl who won national fame after singing at the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games was only miming.

Wearing a red dress and pigtails, Lin Miaoke charmed a worldwide audience with a rendition of “Ode to the Motherland”.

But the singer was Yang Peiyi, who was not allowed to appear because she is not as "flawless" as nine-year-old Lin.

The show's musical director said Lin was used because it was in the best interests of the country.

BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | China Olympic ceremony star mimed

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The global television audience of more than three billion people watched in amazement as a series of giant footprints outlined in fireworks proceeded through the night sky from Tiananmen Square to the Bird's Nest stadium - except they were watching a computer animation.

Even the giant television screens within the stadium itself broadcast the fake images.

Stunned viewers thought they were watching the string of fireworks filmed from above by a helicopter.

But in reality they were watching a 3D graphics sequence that took almost a year to produce.

It even included a 'camera shake' to mimic the effect of filming from a helicopter.

The dupe was revealed by China's Beijing Times. Speaking to the paper, the man responsible for the animation said he was pleased with the result.

"Seeing how it worked out, it was still a bit too bright compared to the actual fireworks," Gao Xiaolong told the newspaper.

"But most of the audience thought it was filmed live - so that was mission accomplished."

Olympic Fireworks Faked For TV - Yahoo! News UK

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Olympic organisers admitted today that they are using volunteers to fill swathes of empty seats at competition venues as concerns grow at the failure of ticket holders to attend events.

Despite claims from the Beijing organising committee (Bocog) that all 6.8m tickets for the Games have been sold and confident predictions of full houses at every event, the first three days of competition have seen spaces available at most venues.

There have also been large numbers of yellow-shirted "cheerleaders" present at some events, recruited to create an atmosphere and to prevent the embarrassing spectacle of empty seats appearing on television.

Olympics: Empty seats a concern for Games | Sport | guardian.co.uk

i sincerely hope that competitors start submitting steroid rich piss tests, so we can write this facade off for the waste of time and effort of sporting endeavour it claims to be, and realise the smoke screen of political posturing it really is.

killclimbz · 08-12-2008, 10:36 AM

This is starting to become a scandal of Milli Vanilli proportions.

**nzboardlife** · 08-12-2008, 06:09 PM

I don't see why any of this shit matters, the opening is ment to be a spectical, i don't care if its fake or if the chick aint the one singing as long as its entertaining. Almost everything on tv these days is fake, adds, 'reality tv'and the likes. I also don't care if they want to pay people to sit in the stadium, i like watching the sports more when theres a large crowd amping. I personally don't think this is a 'facade', the sport has been brilliant and that is what this is about.......... THE SPORT@!!!!#@!!#!!!!!

btw these are the least of our worries about china. FakE FirReEWorkRS OWWWWW NOOOOOOO!

mpdsnowman · 08-12-2008, 09:34 PM

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The show's musical director said Lin was used because it was in the best interests of the country

Pretty much this sums up the reality of the issue. See the chinese have alot to accomplish here. World acceptance of humanity is at the top. There is alot riding on them right now. As much as achieving many gold metals in their home country is a severe code of honor, they really need to come out of this olympics with a perception of honor and value to the world. That is their nature.

I will say this. for the amount of money, time and effort I do feel they could have had the other singer and realistically put the fireworks up for real

PaoloSmythe · 08-13-2008, 05:11 AM

i am bemused.

nz - presumably you feel that dope testing of athletes is an unfair suppression of sporting endeavour?

afterall, imagine the spectacle, if all steroids were allowed to who ever would be willing to take the medical risks to dope themselves up to guarantee their success. just imagine the awe of seeing a 5 second 100m sprint, or a 10 m high jump.

mpd - for you to speak of honour is amusing... but what does that word mean to you exactly? is there honour in suggesting something to be genuine when it is a fiction (like computer annimated fireworks or lip synching children)? is there honour in telling a child that they are too ugly to be seen, but must sell their voice into the mouth of another? is this what you think is honourable?

is it honourable to report to the world over the sell out success of the games, when the stands remain mainly vacant?

if there is a case for honourable, sporting endeavour, then by anyone's standards, China is yet to even begin.

and then there are the promises of freedom of the press....

NDTV.com: China gags local media

MediaShift . Report from Beijing::China Partially Lifts Great Firewall for Media, but Access Remains Pricey | PBS

Epoch Times - Olympic Promises Broken: Freedom of the Press

**nzboardlife** · 08-13-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PaoloSmythe

nz - presumably you feel that dope testing of athletes is an unfair suppression of sporting endeavour?

afterall, imagine the spectacle, if all steroids were allowed to who ever would be willing to take the medical risks to dope themselves up to guarantee their success. just imagine the awe of seeing a 5 second 100m sprint, or a 10 m high jump.

i said the opening was supposed to be a specticle, i am agaist steroids, but i'd like to see a 3rd type of olympics. The Extra Special Olympics! with roided up mens heads exploding when they got to the end of their event and what not... maybe it could be a reality tv show.

SpAcEmAn SpLiFF · 08-13-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PaoloSmythe

i am bemused.

nz - presumably you feel that dope testing of athletes is an unfair suppression of sporting endeavour?

afterall, imagine the spectacle, if all steroids were allowed to who ever would be willing to take the medical risks to dope themselves up to guarantee their success. just imagine the awe of seeing a 5 second 100m sprint, or a 10 m high jump.

mpd - for you to speak of honour is amusing... but what does that word mean to you exactly? is there honour in suggesting something to be genuine when it is a fiction (like computer annimated fireworks or lip synching children)? is there honour in telling a child that they are too ugly to be seen, but must sell their voice into the mouth of another? is this what you think is honourable?

is it honourable to report to the world over the sell out success of the games, when the stands remain mainly vacant?

if there is a case for honourable, sporting endeavour, then by anyone's standards, China is yet to even begin.

and then there are the promises of freedom of the press....

NDTV.com: China gags local media

MediaShift . Report from Beijing::China Partially Lifts Great Firewall for Media, but Access Remains Pricey | PBS

Epoch Times - Olympic Promises Broken: Freedom of the Press

did the chinese actually suggest anything, or did they leave it up to the audience to decide for themselves whether the girl was lipsyncing/the fireworks were real?

also, selling out a spectator event and spectator attendance are two different things. i could easily buy tickets to a baseball or football game and decide that im too lazy to go because it's raining/i'm hungover/family emergency/etc.

i guess it could be seen as sort of "dishonorable" to hire people to fill up empty seats, but to infer that it has something to do with politics is shaky at best imo. tons of spectator events have been doing this for years (hiring people to fill empty seats), such as awards show ceremonies.

ive just always thought it was dumb that people see the olympics as something political. my country having the best swimmers, and your country having the best gymnasts means nothing on the political landscape.

what is it that they expect the rest of the world to think? "oh man that michael phelps sure is badass. i think ill move to america now. americans must all be awesome. its the only logical explanation"

PaoloSmythe · 08-13-2008, 12:12 PM

the issue of 'honour' has been made laughable and i think therefore, irrelevent. the promotion of mistruth or outright con, for whatever reason, can hardly be seen as being honourable.

as far as the political ramifications of the games; consider the olympics as being a big party to which everyone is invited; but more importantly, it is a party that everybody knows everyone is invited.

it is quite a statement / snub, for you to then not attend. consider the 1980 games for example.

china has used every aspect of political suggestion in the run up to the games from the very moment it was announced it would be holding them. it is an effort to gain acceptance and inclusion to a global community.

it wasn't too long ago, that nobody was allowed to visit china....until that is, they allowed in US table tennis players to receive a sound thrashing. this allowed the first state visit of a US president in 1972. (research 'ping pong diplomacy')

it is publicly hoped, that on this grander scale, such a sporting invitation rolls out the carpet for even greater global interactions.

again, to suggest that there is no political role in the olympic games, is to dwell entirely on superficialities.

SpAcEmAn SpLiFF · 08-13-2008, 12:26 PM

im not suggesting that there is no political role in the olympics, im just saying that i disappove of it.

mpdsnowman · 08-13-2008, 12:28 PM

Of course there is politics in olympics everyone knows that. The fact that the leaders of countries themselves show up or voice an opinion(as france did about boycotting) is proof of that.

As far as the ticket sales goes...its expensive to fly and stay over there. It is truly only for locals or the rich or families of athletes to attend.

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mpd - for you to speak of honour is amusing... but what does that word mean to you exactly? is there honour in suggesting something to be genuine when it is a fiction (like computer annimated fireworks or lip synching children)? is there honour in telling a child that they are too ugly to be seen, but must sell their voice into the mouth of another? is this what you think is honourable?

Sit down, grab your paper and pencil and take note of how honor plays a roll in the life of the Chinese.

Unity, honor central to Chinese ethos_English_Xinhua

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Two things account for this Chinese-style patriotism. First, Chinese people believe in collectivism in their innermost nature whereas patriotism is the supreme form of collectivism; second, Chinese people tend to attach the greatest importance to a matter of honor. Olympic Games is a rare occasion in which an unprecedentedly large number of foreigners will come. The Chinese are a nation of hospitality. For them, any event that will attract many guests should be run in style.

Here is another link that explains the value of honour or honor with the chinese.

Chinese Calligraphy Selections Related to Honor

Weather people like thier rules for govt. weather they like the social ideals. One cannot put aside the reality and presence of ...here honour is a main focus of the chinese ideal

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