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Old 11-27-2013, 05:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Shell or insulated jacket?

I'm looking on the house website and they have a listing for softshell and technical shell, what's the difference between them? I'm buying pants and jacket as the same time, I should be ok with baselayers on and a 2nd layer with the shell jacket?
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You should try and get to a gear shop to see and feel the difference. Soft shell is softer material than hard shell. Tough to describe properly. Both have different functions.

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Old 11-27-2013, 05:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Softshells aren't waterproof. They are water resistant. Technical shells are usually waterproof but you need to look at the WP rating, it will tell you how WP and how breathable the garment is.

If you live in an area that doesn't get rain or wet snow softshells work well.

Up here in the Pacific NW I think a technical shell is a better choice.

FWIW I have and use both. I tend to avoid boarding in the rain so I don't need the most WP garments. If it is snowing and on the warm side I'll choose my WP jacket and newer pants.
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Softshells aren't waterproof. They are water resistant. Technical shells are usually waterproof but you need to look at the WP rating, it will tell you how WP and how breathable the garment is.

If you live in an area that doesn't get rain or wet snow softshells work well.

Up here in the Pacific NW I think a technical shell is a better choice.

FWIW I have and use both. I tend to avoid boarding in the rain so I don't need the most WP garments. If it is snowing and on the warm side I'll choose my WP jacket and newer pants.

Furthermore. Gore tex and neo shell both make a waterproof soft shell. Hard shells can also be insulted and soft shells usually have a fleece lining on the inside of the jacket. Soft shells are good for hiking when it's cold because they breathe well. For a resort jacket a hard shell or for cold days on the lifts and insulated hard shell.
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Really depends on the jacket, waterproof rating and breatability rating. I hate bulky coats. 98% of the winter I rock a 686 Jacket mid layer piece either patagonia or helly hansen and long johns.

What are the jackets your looking at?
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Furthermore. Gore tex and neo shell both make a waterproof soft shell. Hard shells can also be insulted and soft shells usually have a fleece lining on the inside of the jacket. Soft shells are good for hiking when it's cold because they breathe well. For a resort jacket a hard shell or for cold days on the lifts and insulated hard shell.
If it is insulated then it is not really a shell. In fact, some people will tell you that if it has a mesh lining it is not a real shell...
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If it is insulated then it is not really a shell. In fact, some people will tell you that if it has a mesh lining it is not a real shell...
Well, I guess it would be an insulated jacket with a waterproof hard outer shell. But not a hard shell with insulation. Good to know buddy.
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Really depends on the jacket, waterproof rating and breatability rating. I hate bulky coats. 98% of the winter I rock a 686 Jacket mid layer piece either patagonia or helly hansen and long johns.

What are the jackets your looking at?
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If you ride anywhere where the weather gets crappy, be weary that fur can and will freeze and get scratchy on your face. At least that was my experience with a furry, lined hood.

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If you ride anywhere where the weather gets crappy, be weary that fur can and will freeze and get scratchy on your face. At least that was my experience with a furry, lined hood.
hmm thanks for the tip
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