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Old 01-21-2014, 02:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Where is that perfect shell jacket I am looking for? Building up for next years trip to Japan

Spec for a new jacket:
- water resistant, 20K
- highly breathable, I am not clear where it starts but I've seen jacket with 25K
- hood with room for helmet
- wrist gaiters, taped seams, arm went, storm skirt and all that good stuff that keeps snow and water on the outside. Pockets for phone, lift ticket and credit card. I don't carry much but a nice feature I read about is big pockets to warm your hands in when sitting in the chair lift on a stormy day.

2 jackets - different but same
** Oakley Unification Pro Jacket ($250, dropped from $550)
Oakley Unification Pro Jacket - Men's | Backcountry.com
Pros: RECCO system, goretex pro membran, and all other tech
Cons: Color, perhaps the black works, but not the others. No lining - only a shell.

** Homeschool Universe Jacket ($400)
Homeschool Universe Jacket - Men's | Dogfunk.com
Pros: 3.5 layer, highly breathable with homeschool system. Extension of the collar to cover the cheeks - nice in bad weather.
Cons: Colors, stiff and heavy?? 3.5 layer is the opposite of Oakleys, but still it's only a shell jacket.

One drawback of both these jackets are that they look short. I have a Thirtytwo jacket where the powder skirt goes beneath my back protection - this is a must for me. I always ride with back protection and if the skirt stays on top of it I have no use for the skirt. Perhaps a bigger size will help. My 32 is medium and I am usually wearing small.

Suggestion/comments on these jackets and others like Burton AK and other Goretext pro shell jackets. Please let me know.

At last little of me:
- 5'7" and 150lbs
- Allmountain freestyle - powder if I can choose. Snowboarding as long as I can remember.
- From freezing cold to warm spring days - if the slope/terrain is good weather doesn't matter.
- I don't like a tight fit but not to baggy either.

Price level: $200-300 but I can wait for a sale
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Old 01-21-2014, 02:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I like the look of the Oakley unification jackets in black, but their cut is a bit different. I currently use Volcom goretex TDS and it's a much roomier cut than Oakley's.....
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Old 01-21-2014, 02:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Your request is for the perfect "shell" jacket. Your con for the two you have mentioned are "no lining, only a shell"

Do you really know what you want?

The best "Technical Shells" have no lining, no insulation. They are designed to be used in a "layered" fashion.

If you still think you want a technical shell ( has no lining ) consider the Flylow Gear "Quantum" Jacket. Great shell with 7 pockets, powder skirt, and all the good stuff.
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Old 01-21-2014, 02:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Your request is for the perfect "shell" jacket. Your con for the two you have mentioned are "no lining, only a shell"

Do you really know what you want?

The best "Technical Shells" have no lining, no insulation. They are designed to be used in a "layered" fashion.

If you still think you want a technical shell ( has no lining ) consider the Flylow Gear "Quantum" Jacket. Great shell with 7 pockets, powder skirt, and all the good stuff.
Perhaps am I out fishing, but since all my previous jackets had linings I am a bit skeptical to "technical shell" - at least until I have tried it

I found a review of your suggestion - http://snowbrains.com/gear-review-fl...uantum-jacket/. Nice looking jackets, simple and stylish. Good data on all tech stuff - nice with a pocket that could hold a six pack
The only drawback I could find is the same as the other. It looks too short, at least in my preference with powder skirt and room for back protection.
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Or look at a arcteryx sidewinder sv if you have to have the best of the best, also lifetime repairs on the jacket. All goretex type products need some layering under them like a fleece, thermal silk or puffy depending on the day. I have a sidewinder and love it on cold wet snow days with a puff on the coldest of days. That being said I ride a neff soft-shell rated 10k most days with layering under it. Also all great shells will have at least 2L but the pro level will get 3L so it can withstand the abuse.
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I have an Arc Teryx Beta AR and it's the most versatile, durable jacket I've ever owned. It's less convenient as an everyday winter jacket because it it a shell and you have to layer for warmth, but nothing beats it in repelling snow, water and wind. And the best thing about it is the fit. I am usually between an XL and XXL, but this has a more athletic cut in the body but is roomy in the arms and shoulders. Best fit I've ever had in a jacket and I can wear it for three seasons out of the year due to its versatility.

If you spend a lot of time and look hard, these can be had for much cheaper than the eye-popping MSRPs. This model I have is a $550 jacket, but I found it at a small franchise retailer in Tennessee (online), found a coupon and snagged it for under half that price.
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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^ same with me that is why I own 5 different arcteryx jackets now hahaha.
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For what you are doing, you don't really need the advantages that a pro shell would offer. Performance Gore Tex is fine and will keep you dry just as well.

By opting for the performance shell, your prices will drop in to your range as well and you will have more options.
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No liner is a plus, that's a true shell.

I wouldn't have it any other way in a shell, Otherwise get an insulated jacket not a shell.

I really like my ak hover jacket.

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Old 01-21-2014, 07:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Another vote for Arcteryx Sidewinder SV. Love how the powder skirt clips into their Pants, the fit, the colors.
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