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Old 02-07-2014, 08:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello.

After (8) years of skiing followed by a couple of years where I did not have the chance of doing any winter sports, I've started getting into snowboarding after relocating in Japan. After coming back from my first trip (today), I have decided to plan a couple more trips this season, and decided I would look into getting my own gear rather than renting.

After reading around online, I've decided to go for a Patagonia's Primo Down Jacket (Willow Herb Green)



It's expensive, but fits well (tried it at the store earlier) and hopefully will serve me well for a good while.

Then I went looked/tried on a couple of pants in the store. What I ended up finding is that there are little things about the higher end Gore-Tex products (e.g. Primo Pants). There are seemingly small things such as the availability or size of pockets, but at those price, I won't settle for something I am not completely happy with.

Then I came across the Snowshot Pants. They are almost half the price of the higher end stuff, fits very well, and on the regular version (which I am going for as I find them more comfortable than the slim version) as all the pockets I want too. Nice practical from what I can see. However rather than the Gore-Tex, it uses Patagonia's own H2No. Has anyone here tried anything with that tech and can you comment on whether it is a decent Gore-Tex alternative?

The next question is far more subjective and far less important.. but I'd still like to hear some opinions since I suffer from a total lack of fashion sense Unlike the jacket, the pants has quite a few colour options. As a colour, I tend to favour like orange.



But since the jacket is not very flashy, would it be too weird of a contrast? My second choice is the Wax Red which is more toned down.



I know it's all quite subjective and while I am not interested in making a fashion statement, I'd still like to avoid any fashion faux-pas. So any opinions would be much appreciated. Thanks
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Old 03-01-2014, 05:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Both combinations you mention are great; these bright colors make it easy for others to see you even in flat light, when black in black guys are just wandering firs.
As for pant color: screw what could be fashion and go with the colors you like most (I really like the green orange combination though ).
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+1 the orange. that red with the green, to my eye, is just wrong
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I would personally go for the green/orange combo, unless you are intending to do any "spring" boarding, and then the orange trousers will look old and dirty very quickly...

If you can grab both pairs of trousers, then do so, you can never have too many, and if you have a wet pair, then you can change, i find trousers and boots along with gloves are the items that get the wettest regardless of when you ride, so i have enough to keep me going, 2 pairs of boots, 4 pairs of trousers, and 2 pairs of gloves, that way i am equipped for all occasions...

The last thing i would say is, if you are considering taking this seriously, then think forward, if your riding is ever going to include the need for impact shorts, then take that into account now when buying, as they bulk up the trousers, hence i have 4 pairs, 2 large and 2 extra large, so i can use with or without impact shorts, i do ride an awful lot though, it is not just about buying stuff for the sake of it... I will get 100 days this year so it makes sense to me... It may not for you though...
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Second thought...
Is the jacket one suitable fir snowboarding? A powder skirt is a MUST, even if you're not going to ride pow any time soon. Otherwise you're going to have snow up your back all the time when falling.

You're sure you want to buy a down jacket? I prefer light shell jackets and layer depending on temperatures. Warm down jackets will reduce this fexibility.

Considering quality I can't comment on the patagonia tech... but in general, the pants are the item I insist the most on high quality. My last pants did around 400days and always dry even after sitting in wet spring snow.
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Pants are the most important (bsides boots!). Get good pants, and proper socks. The jacket simply needs a snowskirt and unless it rains a lot or is very cold where you ride, most breatheable/waterproof jackets will be ok. I have 5k/8k and 15k/15k jackets and i can't say there's any noticeable difference. Pants, i got 20k/20k and they are great. Never ever gotten wet underneath.

As for fashion... listen to the women. If it was up to me i'd ride black on black or muted colours, but my wife kept insisting on brighter stuff, so i got a bright jacket. To be honest, it's pretty nice, she was right.

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I own the snowshot pants and swear by them. Just as good as gore in my opinion. This is my second season in them at mt bachelor and have used worn them in all conditions. Also if the temps are not in the negative range, or if you run hot blooded, down might be too warm.
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