What size is your foot and what size sock are you using.
If you getting your sock all bundled up as you put your foot into your boot. Almost sounds like your socks are to big. Have you thought of sizing down your socks
I buy Med as I'm on the bubble of Lrg/Med and the Med stay more snug and I just like the fit better of Med than a looser fitting large.
No the inside of my liner (salomon malamutes) has a material to help hold your heel down and works more at slowly sliding my sock down. I typically wear rei wool socks, dakine free ride, a random burton pair that has worn a hole in the heel. I was just curious if anybody had a snowboard specific wool sock that they swear by. I think my liners are a bit packed out also which could be my problem, but this has been going on for a while.
Merino wool is always good, but they're expensive... maybe if you do loooong days out in the wild (once or twice a week) may be worth it to have the best.
I ride mostly resort at not so hardcore conditions, and sometimes go 3-4 days in a week or in a row, so i have several socks not necessarily top of the line. My favourites are Under Armour, perfect cushion, stay tight... neat.
Burton are really comfy and perfect thickness, but a little slippery... MAYBE in your case they might work (ie the liner will slide a bit instead of pulling your socks).
Instance are super comfortable, and cool styles; thicker tham the others.
I also have DC medium cushion... really nice, these are the thinnest. But very good quality.
The problem I'm having with smartwool phd is the venting on the top makes my toes freezing on days below like 29F. I would like to find something with the same thickness (referring to their 2nd or 3rd lightest) but WARM. On the really cold days (10F and below) I had to shove some of those to warmer things in my boot, which is kinda awkward, but works ok.
I did get a pair of Darn Tough and the calves were starting to get shredded after the first day. They aren't ruined but it was a surprising amount of wear quickly. Apparently they have a good warranty though. But I can't see myself bothering to warranty socks.
you might try wearing a liner sock. on long trips hiking in mountaineering boots one trick i've used is to wear a pair of dress socks under my normal hikers or snowboard socks. the dress socks are super super thin (silk would work too) and although the primary purpose is to reduce friction and help wicking it does add warmth without adding really any bulk.
another idea is to try smartwool's mountaineering socks. they're ski/shred height but more padded/insulated (most notably on the top of the foot/toes).
I love eesa socks. They've been off the radar for a few years but they have a whole new line rolling out next season. Which is good because my stash is dwindling.
The smart wool should be fine in those temps. I used them in 7-16 degree weather last week. You might have a circulation issue, try adding a thin compression sock.
I have some Burton socks, some local shop socks, and some Smartwool super thin snowboard socks. The Smartwool are by far my favorite. And really, at $15.00 a pair, are no more expensive than anything from Burton or any other brand.
^This. 100% Darn Tough all day. Buy 7 pairs of socks and you never need to buy more. EVER! And I find them to be better than Smartwool. Though I do have a few nice pairs of those.
I have several pairs of Burton socks. But, I strongly prefer rocking no socks at all, haven't worn socks riding since 2010, in fact. Good fit, warm feet in general, and no trouble with bunching socks or blisters.
If your feet are getting cold in 29-degree temps with smart wool you got problems that aren't related to your socks! I finally made the switch to merino wool socks last year and am a big fan of the Smart Wool PHD ultra-lights. I've been out in single-digit temps this year and although everything else on me had frost-bite, my toes were nice and warm.
i like smartwool but honestly, this year has been pretty mild and i'm just using stance socks on the reg. no need for wool unfortunately. it's just like going out skateboarding, no snow here in NM
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