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Looking to replace Burton AK 2L Gore-Tex Jacket

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After 3 seasons my Butron 2L Gore-tex jacket is falling apart and lost most of it's waterproof ability even after washing with "waterproofing" detergents.

I usually ride 20+ days a season with occasional split boarding with 6-8 hours on the mountain per day.
So a Gore-tex 3L jacket would be ideal as it is more tear resistant.

Are there other materials like Gore-tex that offer more superior breathability and waterproofness?
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No, not really.

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Hi,

After 3 seasons my Butron 2L Gore-tex jacket is falling apart and lost most of it's waterproof ability even after washing with "waterproofing" detergents.

I usually ride 20+ days a season with occasional split boarding with 6-8 hours on the mountain per day.
So a Gore-tex 3L jacket would be ideal as it is more tear resistant.

Are there other materials like Gore-tex that offer more superior breathability and waterproofness?
how often have you washed it? one of my burton jackets is at least 5 years old and i've washed it a fair few times and it's still as waterproof as it was when i bought it, are you tumbledrying it to reactivate the waterproofing?
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Woah, who puts a waterproof jacket in a washing machine?

Guess I'm just dirty
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Woah, who puts a waterproof jacket in a washing machine?

Guess I'm just dirty
goretex and event fabric work best when clean but you have to use the right cleaners and you need to heat it to reactivate the waterproofing e.g iron or tumble dry. if they get dirty it stops the water beading off like its ment too.
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E Vent material is actually noticeably better than Goretex in the breathability department. About the same as far as waterproofness.

But very few manufacturers use it because it's so expensive and Goretex is really aggressive about keeping them out of the game. I have a Quicksilver Jeremy Jones jacket made out of the stuff, it's breathes way better than anything else I own including Burton AK 3L. But the only time it really makes a difference to me is hiking/split etc.

Here's a link to their site you might find some brands using it there. Although in my experience not all manufacturers are listed there.
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Here's a good article on the Goretex wars:
http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor...-Membrane.html

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E Vent material is actually noticeably better than Goretex in the breathability department. About the same as far as waterproofness.

But very few manufacturers use it because it's so expensive and Goretex is really aggressive about keeping them out of the game. I have a Quicksilver Jeremy Jones jacket made out of the stuff, it's breathes way better than anything else I own including Burton AK 3L. But the only time it really makes a difference to me is hiking/split etc.

Here's a link to their site you might find some brands using it there. Although in my experience not all manufacturers are listed there.
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Here's a good article on the Goretex wars:
Gore-Tex Under Siege from Waterproof Fabric Newcomers | Outdoor Gear - Equipment Reviews and Articles | OutsideOnline.com
Just curious but when was JJ ever sponsored by Quik? Not Oneill?
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LOL!! Yeah sorry, so much gear so little time. It is indeed O'Neil, I don't even know what this jacket is called there's no name on it. They did a real half-assed job of marketing it. I had to hunt all over EBay to find it, but it was worth it. Super nice fabric, very well made, and the ultimate in breathability. For you split board guys the EVent stuff is amazingly breathable. You will actually notice it, which doesn't always happen with the stuff they all sell us.
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I've heard people say that eVent is more breathable, but the link I posted disagrees. I haven't noticed a difference myself, but then again I sweat like a horse and with any waterproof fabric breathability is relatively speaking. I just open all my vents or when splitting, but my shell in my pack for the uphill when weather permits.

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I think it's definitely noticeable with the jacket I own, but O'Neil also did a really nice job building this jacket and it was $350 or more if my memory serves me right. It could vary possibly based on what you are comparing it to and how well made the jacket is you have with Event.
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