Burton [AK] line - Snowboarding Forum - Snowboard Enthusiast Forums
SnowboardingForum.com is the premier Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-22-2010, 04:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 171
Default Burton [AK] line

I'm not sure if i understand the shredalistic lingo on the burton website, and i can't tell much from the shops either. What is the difference between 2l and 3l gore-tex coats? What about the mm, there are 8mm/13mm and only 13mm, and what about the down insulated one?

I generally feel cold when im riding, especially when im on the lift. I do sweat a lot however, and i feel the wind with burton 10.000m jackets. I usually layer up with a tight 1st layer and a fleece or a sweater.
pailhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 01-22-2010, 06:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
Veteran Member
john doe's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 1,411

Sweating but feeling cold. Sounds like you aren't wearing propper layers. You need to have absolutely no cotton in anything you wear. Cotton will hold water and make you feel cold. Start with a polyester or polypropylene base layer that is tight to your skin. Then you can add on other insulating layer(s) as needed. Just make sure they aren't cotton. Fleece's make good insulating middle layers.

Last edited by john doe; 01-22-2010 at 06:17 PM.
john doe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2010, 06:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
dharmashred's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lee Vining
Posts: 414

I have the 3L static pants. I believe that the waterproofing is the same, both made of gore tex. One difference between 2L and 3L is that the 2L pants come with liners. The 3L pants have a mesh lining bonded directly to the pants. In other words, my "vents" if open, open up straight to my unders. 3Ls also have the Aquazip water resistant zippers. Out of the 2, the 3Ls would be more breathable, but probably not quite as warm.

These pants definitely keep me dry, but in terms of warmth, they are warmer than I thought they would be, since they are so thin (but i run hot), but if you are always cold, I would go with the 2L. I guess logically, something can't be super water resistant, super breathable and super warm all at once. Not yet anyway. Something's got to be sacrificed a little. I prefer to be dry on powder days, i just add a mid if i need to.
Every turn is a blessing.
dharmashred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2010, 07:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 171

What about the 2L down, would that be an overkill in terms of warmth? I am expecting a burton [AK] insulator jacket to arrive, which i ordered a while back, but had trouble bringing here. IT's not the down one, but the other synthetic material. I presume i wouldn't need the down jacket then?
pailhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2010, 05:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 171

I tried on some of the last year models, i think they were stagger and turbine, not sure if there was a hover too. It was pretty weird. The same model, two different sizes and the material just felt a lot different, one was pretty soft the other one pretty stiff. The turbine had some lining, but it was missing the hanger and i couldn't find out what type was it (down or synthetic), but i'm under the impression that its definitely an overkill.


I'm sorry i didn't see your post. I do wear active underwear, i've got two base layers that i use, one has a slightly loose fit, is sort of thick and says its 100% polyester, and the other one is a really tight thing made out of "coolmax", which i prefer. The coolmax one never feels wet, but whenever im on the lift, i get cold. Somewhere, somehow, i think the wind is always getting through.

I've no idea how to find out more about these tech shells and stuff without trying out different combos. Maybe my fleece is bad, maybe it's my jacket, maybe i wear too much maybe i wear too little... so, i'm hoping that i'll be able to get some feedback from a kind soul that has experience with these things.

How would the continuum, hover, iDiom 3L and maestro compare, out of burton jackets. No Himalayas, no alaska, but some really cold and windy resorts.
pailhead is offline   Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:40 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums