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Old 03-20-2010, 03:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I live in california and we don't ever get that cold. I have been rocken 5,000 mm pants for awhile now. When buying a new pair i got another 5,000 mm pant. My question is does anyone know why they make them more waterproof and what its for?
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Old 03-20-2010, 03:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Uhhhhhhh. They make them more water proof so that you can have greater protection from the rain/foul weather i.e. stay dry. You need this so that if you get caught in bad weather on the hill, you don't end up cold/wet/miserable.
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I have been wearing 5,000 mm stuff in the middle of a blizzard here. I was dry and warm.
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haha, "california" and "blizzard" are two words i never thought i would see in a sentence.
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I have been wearing 5,000 mm stuff in the middle of a blizzard here. I was dry and warm.
Same...

If your doing backcountry or sitting on your ass a lot and doing general flopping around in the snow for a long period of time, you may have some issues with 5kmm

I don't spend a ton of time on my ass or fall that often and I've got no issues...

Just layer up and the 5k shell is plenty. Both my pants and coat are 5k
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Go live in the Northwest for a while and you will learn the benefit of 15k and up waterproofing. It's really for places that get crazy cold or have a lot of "wet" conditions. I have 15k pants and a 25k coat. I have boarded in the rain this season and not gotten wet.
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Ah ya, I really only have Colorado/dry conditions for reference. I could def be wrong
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My 3k pants were great until I went snowboarding in the spring. everything melting + the rain made it so miserable. I'd say in colder conditions when nothing is melting they'll be good...bu when it starts melting...you're screwed
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To answer what the rating means: For a 10k or 10,000 mm piece of equipment, this rating means it can withstand 10,000 mm of rainfall in a 24 hour period without you getting wet.
If you don't ever get out in the rain and wetter conditions 5k might be decent enough for you. Usually if an item is rated decently low (like 5k for example), it probably just has some sort of waterproof coating on it that can wear off over time so watch out for that...
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I have a pair of 5k pants and a pair of 10k pants. I honestly can't tell a difference between them. If you stay upright, both will keep you dry even on a pow day. If you spend a lot of time on your ass, your ass will get wet in either.

To hell with all that 5k, 10k, 15k, etc. stuff. If you see a lot of shit conditions and spend a lot of time flailing around, go out and get you some Gore-Tex gear, eVent, or Conduit (Mountain Hardware). That shit'll keep you dry regardless.
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