I've got Foursquare Hoffman pants and they're really comfy in many different weather conditions. Their thin liner works so well I don't need anything but undies and crash shorts underneath in cold windy conditions. One day it was so warm I had to wear one thin top and take off my gloves (first 50-50's and 180's that day!) but the huge zippered vents kept me cool and comfy. I highy recommend them.