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need help buying a new jacket :)

So I've been looking at jackets for the past while and have narrowed it down to the 686 smarty command jacket, or the burton ak 2l cyclic jacket. Obviously the AK is quite a bit more expensive and I was just wondering if it was worth it? I know the big draw of the AK is the gore-tex which helps keep the rider dry. I live in Alberta and the humidity is a bit dryer, so I don't even know if it's really worth it. I have a burton dryride bonded hoodie as well as some icebreaker sweaters and shirts which are made of merino wool so I'm pretty set for layering if I choose to go with the AK shell. Also what do you guys think of both companies pant to jacket interfaces? Pretty sure I want to get the same companies pants as I do jacket, so I don't end up getting swamp ass lol.
Anyways thanks in advance for your help!

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Whats the price difference? If its a top I really wouldn't care if its gortex or not. If they were pants that's a different story.
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About 100 dollars more for the AK. i'll post the links

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Does the AK have a powder skirt? If it doesn't I would go with the 686. Realistically, as long as your not riding in the rain or very damp snow 10000mm is fine. Water seeping through your jacket wouldn't be a concern. The features that I look for in a jacket is wrist and waist gaiters, they make all the difference.
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So I've been looking at jackets for the past while and have narrowed it down to the 686 smarty command jacket, or the burton ak 2l cyclic jacket. Obviously the AK is quite a bit more expensive and I was just wondering if it was worth it? I know the big draw of the AK is the gore-tex which helps keep the rider dry. I live in Alberta and the humidity is a bit dryer, so I don't even know if it's really worth it. I have a burton dryride bonded hoodie as well as some icebreaker sweaters and shirts which are made of merino wool so I'm pretty set for layering if I choose to go with the AK shell. Also what do you guys think of both companies pant to jacket interfaces? Pretty sure I want to get the same companies pants as I do jacket, so I don't end up getting swamp ass lol.
Anyways thanks in advance for your help!

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I have the 2009 version of the Burton AK 2L Cyclic jacket (seen here) which I bought 30% off (still a bit of a splurge, but I loved the electric blue look) on backcountry.com (best place to buy gear). I would say it is a pretty good jacket, but is probably not the "best jacket ever." Breathability rating is not just for humid conditions - it is important for for venting heat/moisture that your own body generates from physical activity - meaning the jacket will work in warmer spring like conditions (that video I linked to was taken in Mt. Hood, Oregon in the middle of the summer (although it was a little chilly for the summer). Goretex is the second best waterproof material I know of (eVent is better).

I like the slimmer, shorter fit as some jacket these days are so long and baggy I feel like I'm wearing a a poncho. It has only three external pockets (two side and one chest - with an hole to thread your headphones) which I prefer as I dont' like carrying a lot of junk with me.

The Burton pants to jacket interface is not anything super techie or amazing (you basically just button your jacket down to loops in the pants to keep it from sliding up when you fall) but it works.

I've had a bad impression from what I've heard of 686, but that jacket you linked to looks ok.

Alberta, eh? I've been to Sun Peaks once (was awesome).
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I just purchased the 686 Mannual Cube the other day and so far am really happy with it. Looks like the same insulation as the one you are looking at. Will have to see how well it holds up but so far I am very happy.
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