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Help with my 1st time buying

Hey everyone
im starting to snowboard this season and would appreciate help with buying gear.
so far i have a skate banana, burton boots, ride lx bindings, oakley googles, and a helmet. now i need the outwear. i live in ny if that helps for climate questions. any advise is helpful. the only jackets ive looked at are the burton ak 2L cyclic, session recon, and burton kush. would you recommend i buy layers or use my normal clothes under my jacket? is a soft shell jacket with layers under good enough in the north east?

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First, search this forum. There is a lot of good information that will help with all your questions.

My recommendation would be to use a base layer (I use Under Armor Cold Gear), mid layer (Hoodie), and a shell jacket. A soft shell jacket would also be sufficient on most days in the Northeast as long as you dont fall that often.

Ride, Rome, Sessions, Special Blend, Burton, etc. They all make solid jackets/pants.
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First, search this forum. There is a lot of good information that will help with all your questions.

My recommendation would be to use a base layer (I use Under Armor Cold Gear), mid layer (Hoodie), and a shell jacket. A soft shell jacket would also be sufficient on most days in the Northeast as long as you dont fall that often.

Ride, Rome, Sessions, Special Blend, Burton, etc. They all make solid jackets/pants.
ok thanks. ive been searching around using different key words, but its hard to find stuff that is specific for a starter that will only have 1 set of gear for all climates
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ok thanks. ive been searching around using different key words, but its hard to find stuff that is specific for a starter that will only have 1 set of gear for all climates
This is why you should layer and just use a shell. I own one down jacket for super frigid days but I didn't have to use it once last year. A good wind/waterproof shell and as many layers as you need should keep you plenty warm without the overheating you can get from insulated jackets. Same goes for pants too. You should check out the 686 Smarty line. All the pants and jackets come with zip out fleece layers that you can take out if you don't need them.
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Think two things: 1. Stay Warm 2. Stay Dry.

Staying Warm is not accomplished by wearing as much shit as possible. Think tech - not thick. To stay warm and dry wear 3 layers in this order:


FIRST Layer or Base Layer = Wicking layer. This is the layer that touches your skin - not the layer you wear over a t-shirt or wife-beater. This layer is NEVER cotton. It should be a synthetic fabric such as a wicking polyester, but remember the keyword is ":wicking". You will sweat - and this layer will lift the sweat from your body and pull it to the outside layers.

SECOND Layer or Mid Layer= Warmth Layer. Warmth layers are often made of fleece or another synthetic wools designed to trap warm air inside and block cold air from the outside. When it comes to your mid-layer think WARMTH - not "steeze". Patagonia, NorthFace, Marmot, Mountain HardWear, are some brands you probably recognize that make quality fleece gear. Not your "core" brands, I get it. But warm brands...

THIRD Layer or Outer Layer = Elements Layer. A shell layer comes in different breathability and insulation ratings. This layer should keep moisture out, and block wind. The essential layer for staying dry. Look for these characteristics in a good shell or outer layer: fully-taped seams, wrist gaiter, powder gaiter, adjustable cuffs, arm pit vents, hood visor

You mentioned Burton AK gear. You will spend a lot of dough for that gear for sure. Hate to say it, but it will also do the job - warm & dry. There are alternatives to AK gear for sure - shop around. Just remember that getting the layering right will work 10x better than throwing on layer upon layer of the wrong materials. All the well-known snowboard apparel companies make a good shell and pant. Sometimes you have to venture out for a solid mid-layer.

Hope this helps.
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thanks this helps alot
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