ShredLife

i have a Sabre SV right now and its my favorite shell so far.... personally i don't like the hood/collar style of the stingray although i do own some jackets like that..i also wouldn't buy one with insulation - but that is just me and where i live and what i need it to do for me...

if you live in a wet area, do not want a wet ass ever, or would rather have your pants last 5-8 seasons instead of one or two - then yes, they are worth it

all this stuff is great for the resort, if a little overkill for most people - where it really shines is hiking, and in the backcountry. plenty of people who only ride resorts use it tho, so don't feel weird about getting the most hardcore shit if you want it, can afford it, and just want to be comfortable all the time with out having to think about it.

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gstboy

I was also looking at the crossbow but I couldn't really see any big differences between that and the sabre to justify the extra $100 price tag.

blunted_nose

EHHHHH, the real snowboarders snowboard in a hoodie and some jeans. UMAD?
Im just kidding, tho i really wish i could afford something like Arc'teryx or even something that is above 15k rating

ShredLife

i paid 280 for a shell with an msrp of i think 475. i got it from my local mountain's gear shop in march when stuff just starts to go on sale.

i actually end up paying less for gear because the shit lasts at least 3 times as long as dwr rated stuff that needs to be replaced over and over.



buy once cry once...

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blunted_nose

You are welcome to donate, but honestly i payed for a shell with 10k rating and im going to end up riding it for next 10 years. Some cant afford a new jacket every year and i dont really care if my bum is cold or wet. Id rather shred then whine. Here in banff area it gets really cold and dry so we dont get wet, we get cold, but i can layer up if needed.

ShredLife

well good luck with that one.

i'm not sure what to think of the rest of your reply... is that directed towards me? was i whining and not shredding and buying a new jacket every year?

in my experience its the people who buy the 10k stuff who are the ones replacing it every year...its because it does not work.

i like to be comfortable.

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blunted_nose

Not to you, to everyone that whines." wet ass bla bla bla Gt is da Bestz bla bla everything else is sooo bad bla bla im going to climb everest so i need a space suit bla bla"
Im just glad i can snowboard. Got to have to make the best out of your budget. If i could have a GT jacket id love one, but they are so expensive. I dont know about you, But im pretty stoked about my Airblaster shell
anyways, happy shredin.

Riley212

gore tex is great if you ride everyday nto matter the weather, or you are go on trips and ride regardless of weather. So if you are gonna go when its wet, and you want to stay dry, buy goretex. i really like my norrona gear, same quality or better than arc'teryx but looser cuts. these jackets will generally last decades with proper care.

if you dont mind being damp, pretty much anything eles will work, i have had good luck with bonfire jackets, they make a quality product for not a lot of money. pick a jacket you like and go ride

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snowklinger

My ass doesnt get wet because I use Goretex pants, but more importantly I can stretch around my beergut and tie my boots and strap in without sitting down everytime - learn it!

fyi you don't have to buy $8000 arcteryx to get GTX, there are other brands that make perfectly fine gtx gear at half the price of the premium brands like patagonia, etc. Not that theres anything wrong with the nice stuff...

Volcom, Burton AK, etc..

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Lamps

+1 on the goretex comment, it does work a lot better, and if you're our in wet over very damp weather there is a significant difference.

I have a Burton AK 3L hover jacket, works great and is a true shell. The 3L proshell is a great material, very durable, very waterproof, and very breathable. Downside is cost - I think that noronna, arcteryx, and burton do the 3L, all of which are pricey, but it is a long term investment unless you grow out of it.