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Old 11-06-2012, 01:05 AM   #51 (permalink)
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You'd probably like the gore softshell stuff...
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:07 AM   #52 (permalink)
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MOST people will never need goretex. That's just the way it is. PNW sure. Anywhere else is not cold enough or not wet enough for it to be a factor. I have a pair of the original 32 Joe Sexton pants circa 2009 that STRETCH and are a 20k. Still my go to pant for gnar pow days cause they are still waterproof.

I hate goretex. I have a jacket I got for running in for shit weather and almost never wear it. Its too fucking hot. And it's just a goretex brand tech shell. Literally just the goretex, nothing else. Keeps me dry sure, but when its snowing and 25* out and I start sweating? Fuck that.

I can't figure out whey peoples shit gets wet snowboarding (PNW excepted). What are you doing that you're staying in pressured contact with snow that long that its getting you wet?

I personally will never need anything more than 20k. Then again I get free outerwear every year...
I completely disagree with you (along with virtually every reviewer, user and countless top end manufactures that use the membrane). ANYONE can benefit from goretex. Its second to none for breathability which is critical, so even if you board and it NEVER rains its worth while. HOT?! its a shell and unless the manufacture ads an additional inner lining its not going to make you hot..ever. The fact its a shell is great because you can layer up or down based on your personal preference and weather conditions.

Goretex wont breath well if you dont wash it as the poors get clogged. Running is a sure way to do that quick because you are going to sweat a hell of a lot more then when boarding. You will compound the problem if you wear cotton underneath.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:45 AM   #53 (permalink)
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So thus far the two suggestions are:
- Burton AK 3L Hover jacket
- Arcteryx Sabre Jacket (Revised?)

EDIT: I don't mind going up/down a little from the $500 limit. I'm just trying to find the best possible options without going waaaaay over budget

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Old 11-06-2012, 02:04 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I really like my arcteryx theta SV. I paid $275 on sale
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:59 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Where are you guys finding these specials?

- Burton AK 3L Hover Jacket - RRP USD$569.95
- Arcteryx Sabre Jacket - RRP USD$525.00
- Arcteryx Theta SV - RRP USD$550.00

Kind of bullshit how the prices get jacked up massively for Australians. Those prices are direct from the Arcteryx site, through an American proxy. Below are the prices if I visit them without an American proxy (Australian IP).

- Arcteryx Theta SV - RRP AUD$899.00
- Arcteryx Sabre Jacket - Revised - RRP AUD$799.00

Considering AUD$1.00 buys USD$1.04 currently, it doesn't make much sense at all.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:23 PM   #56 (permalink)
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So thus far the two suggestions are:
- Burton AK 3L Hover jacket
- Arcteryx Sabre Jacket (Revised?)

EDIT: I don't mind going up/down a little from the $500 limit. I'm just trying to find the best possible options without going waaaaay over budget
This has been covered quite a few times there are two common dissenters - the anti goretex crowd (who largely complain due to price - other fabrics are as good a value is their point), and the comments along the lines of that's too much for any jacket

Putting that aside there are three names that will regularly pop up, specifically their 3L products

Burton AK
Arcteryx
Norrona

I suspect that anybody else who's using 3L goretex is probably also making a pretty good quality garment too, but those three are the ones that are most often mentioned.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:29 PM   #57 (permalink)
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haha well i feel like an idiot wearing 10k sessions pants from 4 years ago. I have over 150 days in them and they still shed water (fucking unicorn pants)

i love goretex for gloves, i dont need it for anything else.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:43 PM   #58 (permalink)
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At this point I'm just tossing up between the Burton AK 3L and the Arcteryx Theta SV... Wish I could go somewhere and actually try on both, but there's no stores that stock them anywhere close to me
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At this point I'm just tossing up between the Burton AK 3L and the Arcteryx Theta SV... Wish I could go somewhere and actually try on both, but there's no stores that stock them anywhere close to me
The Burton is designed/cut more with the snowboarder in mind.
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At this point I'm just tossing up between the Burton AK 3L and the Arcteryx Theta SV... Wish I could go somewhere and actually try on both, but there's no stores that stock them anywhere close to me
I would go with Burton AK 3L, it's simply awesome!
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