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pdxrealtor · 09-16-2012, 01:00 AM

I'm glad that guy made it out. Amazing!!!

for every survival story there's a death story..........scary

Triple8Sol · 09-18-2012, 04:01 PM

Picked up a Black Diamond Outlaw Avalung pack end of last season but haven't had a chance to use it yet. I wanted a smaller pack, but all of their smaller models only offer diagonal ski carry, and of course I need to be able to strap up a board for hikes.

**killclimbz** · 09-18-2012, 04:27 PM

I believe it was the Canadian avalanche association that did a tree well simulation with skiers and snowboarders going in head first into a tree well. Six of each if memory serves. Not one of them were able to extract themselves. Even the skiers who got their skis off were fucked. This is of course the worse case of burial, but none the less an avalung could buy you time. Why a pack though? There is the avalung sling. Won't throw your riding off at all like a pack. It's all moot if you can't get it in your mouth. I suspect that is easier to do stuck in a tree well than buried in an avalanche though. If no one is looking for you it could be a long wait if you can't self extract.

pdxrealtor · 09-18-2012, 07:50 PM

I've been contemplating a pack for board carrying, and hydration. One of the biggest issues I had last year was dehydration. If Could have hit some Gatorade after the exhausting runs I think I would have had more stamina.

I eat healthy proteins, carbs, and not too much as to burn out. The only variable for me was no water. Add the booze in on top of no water and of course I'm going to burn out quick.

So I figured if I'm gonna get a pack for hydration and board packing, why not get the lung??

I too was looking at the black diamond bag. The smallest one that would allow board strapping.

ETM · 09-18-2012, 08:27 PM

I say keep the lung and the pack seperate. Your lung should last forever but your pack sure wont.

pdxrealtor · 09-18-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ETM

I say keep the lung and the pack seperate. Your lung should last forever but your pack sure wont.

Good point, but I'm trying to simplify things. This business of 20 minutes to load up pockets, and put this on and that on, has got to stop.

Throw it all in a pack, throw it on, and RIDE.

ShredLife · 09-18-2012, 08:41 PM

well it sounds like you have had your mind made up about this and are just looking for some validation in your decision.

there is nothing wrong with wearing safety gear - buy/wear a lung/lungpack if that is what you want to do.

wearing a backpack to carry snacks and water and whatnots at the resort will limit your movement and it will limit your riding ability for no real reason. no one will ever be able to be able to convince me otherwise because i know for a fact that i am right.

i carry a couple of capri suns in my pockets (platypus bottles work great) and a bag of trailmix or a cliff bar. it all fits in my pockets and i hardly have any pockets.

in the backcountry, fine - you need to wear a pack anyways so if you want the lungpack, fine. honestly if you want to look at specialized packs get and airbag - but that's a whole other thread. i digress....

the backpack at the resort will limit your riding.

ThunderChunky · 09-18-2012, 10:50 PM

It's always funny seeing people around here riding with packs. Dude what are you carrying in there? I can see your car from every point on the hill.

ETM · 09-19-2012, 03:17 AM

I ride with a small pack inbounds every time. It sure doesnt stop me having fun.

TheMan · 09-19-2012, 10:07 AM

I always ask the tourists why they are carrying their luggage with them. I've been in a couple sticky tree well/avy situations myself. I keep a whistle on my jacket zipper and on deep days it's pretty much zipped right up near my mouth. I also keep my phone in my chest pocket and whenever any sudden dangers arise, I instinctively (now) throw a hand up near my face/phone area so in the event of avy/well I can clear snow from my mouth and make a call/blow that whistle. I always ride alone inbounds.I carry as little as possible with me inbounds.

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09-18-2012, 08:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
ETM Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hokkaido in my mind Posts: 1,362	I say keep the lung and the pack seperate. Your lung should last forever but your pack sure wont. __________________

09-18-2012, 08:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
ShredLife The Rooster King Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,344	well it sounds like you have had your mind made up about this and are just looking for some validation in your decision. there is nothing wrong with wearing safety gear - buy/wear a lung/lungpack if that is what you want to do. wearing a backpack to carry snacks and water and whatnots at the resort will limit your movement and it will limit your riding ability for no real reason. no one will ever be able to be able to convince me otherwise because i know for a fact that i am right. i carry a couple of capri suns in my pockets (platypus bottles work great) and a bag of trailmix or a cliff bar. it all fits in my pockets and i hardly have any pockets. in the backcountry, fine - you need to wear a pack anyways so if you want the lungpack, fine. honestly if you want to look at specialized packs get and airbag - but that's a whole other thread. i digress.... the backpack at the resort will limit your riding. __________________ get the hell off my lawn.

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ETM Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hokkaido in my mind Posts: 1,362	I ride with a small pack inbounds every time. It sure doesnt stop me having fun. __________________

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09-16-2012, 01:00 AM	#11 (permalink)
pdxrealtor Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 750	I'm glad that guy made it out. Amazing!!! for every survival story there's a death story..........scary

09-18-2012, 04:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
killclimbz Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Front Range Posts: 9,176	I believe it was the Canadian avalanche association that did a tree well simulation with skiers and snowboarders going in head first into a tree well. Six of each if memory serves. Not one of them were able to extract themselves. Even the skiers who got their skis off were fucked. This is of course the worse case of burial, but none the less an avalung could buy you time. Why a pack though? There is the avalung sling. Won't throw your riding off at all like a pack. It's all moot if you can't get it in your mouth. I suspect that is easier to do stuck in a tree well than buried in an avalanche though. If no one is looking for you it could be a long wait if you can't self extract.

09-18-2012, 07:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
pdxrealtor Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 750	I've been contemplating a pack for board carrying, and hydration. One of the biggest issues I had last year was dehydration. If Could have hit some Gatorade after the exhausting runs I think I would have had more stamina. I eat healthy proteins, carbs, and not too much as to burn out. The only variable for me was no water. Add the booze in on top of no water and of course I'm going to burn out quick. So I figured if I'm gonna get a pack for hydration and board packing, why not get the lung?? I too was looking at the black diamond bag. The smallest one that would allow board strapping.

09-19-2012, 10:07 AM	#20 (permalink)
TheMan Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Breckenridge CO Posts: 19	I always ask the tourists why they are carrying their luggage with them. I've been in a couple sticky tree well/avy situations myself. I keep a whistle on my jacket zipper and on deep days it's pretty much zipped right up near my mouth. I also keep my phone in my chest pocket and whenever any sudden dangers arise, I instinctively (now) throw a hand up near my face/phone area so in the event of avy/well I can clear snow from my mouth and make a call/blow that whistle. I always ride alone inbounds.I carry as little as possible with me inbounds.