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Old 11-04-2012, 10:12 AM   #31 (permalink)
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SPY platoons.

Oversized with an insane field of view.
Helmet compatible

Comes with 2 lenses... A dark and lowlight that can quickly be changed out.
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:59 AM   #32 (permalink)
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BAH! Can't say I've really ever seen much "ice glare" before I started using polarized goggles. And I used to ride icy Ontario! Not much ice where I ride these days...

I'm happy with my Rose Copper polarized lenses for bright light situations...

What brought me to this thread is I need some new low light goggles and haven't bought in a couple years. I'll probably be buying smith goggles so trying to decide between a couple lenses specifically for highlighting the snow on overcast days.

- Red Sensor Mirror
- Sensor Mirror
- Gold Sensor Mirror
- Gold Lite

To be honest the best low light goggles I've used were a pair of $30 blue blockers (orange lens) I bought about 7 years ago. I'd just like to find a pair of them again!
What you are picturing as "glare" is more a more a slight reflection that ice gives. If you look at ice in the day light it reflects light which helps you determine where ice is when bombing down the hill and adjust your speed and balance. Take that reflection away and you put yourself in a much more dangerous situation. Lenses are meant to improve/enhance your vision not take things away that are helpful to you.

Polarized is not meant for this sport.
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:42 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Gotta agree with Sass regarding polarized lenses. I quit using the polarized lens in my Smith Phenoms after damn near killing myself with near bails at high speed when I hit ice patches I didn't see coming. Ice on the slopes is invisible through a polarized lens.
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
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tried the I/O and and didn't like them. Excellent optics, but the sensor mirrors kept fogging between the lenses. At first, I thought it was just a defective lens, but 3 different sensors later and still the same problem. I also had to wear the frame kinda high in order for them to fit my nose right...which puts too much of the frame bottom and nose piece into view.

tried the EG2. They seemed ridiculously huge, but I really hated the thickness of the face foam and how far it pushes the lens away from the face. Also tried the VZ Skylab. Same overly thick face foam issue and the peripheral vision was actually quite bad. Both goggles seem geared closer to asian faces or people with tiny noses.

going to the store to try on goggles is a pita. They have them locked, so you need a salesperson and they're frequently impatient/rushed because of other customers. You may need to buy them, try them...then return them.

I'm hoping zeal works better for me

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Old 11-05-2012, 09:37 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I was at Keystone this past weekend and was finally about to try on all the helmets/goggles I had been reading about:

Electric EG2 and EG2.5
Dragon APX
Smith I/O

Initially, I thought I'd go there and leave with a pair of EG2 gogs, but after trying them on I was pretty thrown from them. Like some of you have already mentioned, they are huge...and not in a good way. The peripherals seemed no better than my old Spy Soldiers except for looking up (which is pointless imo). I felt like the EG2.5 gog was a much better fit size wise, and has the same down and side peripherals as the EG2. As mentioned above, the foam on these was way larger than needed. Less foam puts a goggle closer to your face and therefore better view right???

The Smith I/O seemed no better than my old Spy Soldiers. I think it's silly how they advertise frameless when really the frame is just on the inside of the lens.

The Dagon APX also did not excite me very much. I tried on the large and the small version. The foam was way too thick and the peripherals were nothing to brag about.

Conclusion:
For now I'm sticking with my Spy Soldiers, not because I think they are the best goggle on the market, but because I can't justify some of these newer goggles as $100+ better.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:31 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I feel like I keep hearing "Smith I/O" everywhere I go. Is this just the new fad, or are they really worth it?

Also, I've always found ebay to be the cheapest place to by goggles. Anybody have any comments on this?
I have some I/Os, they have been extremely good to me. I moved to them from a pair of bolle's nothing wrong with the bolle's but the smiths offer much more peripherals and fit to my helmet better. not to mention being able to change the lenses out so fast depending on conditions sure is nice. The only down side i have found to the I/Os is at least for me and the way my face is shaped, when i get hit with a cross wind the smiths do allow a little more air in through the goggle. Its not to the point of being a problem but it is noticeable

anyone tried the Dye goggles yet? I come from a paintball background where dye makes some of the best lenses in the game so I was rather excited to hear they were taking a stab at snow goggles. They seem expensive (which, truth be told is par for the course for Dye) but if they have taken what they have learned in paintball and applied it to snow goggles they should be a good pair of lenses
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:28 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I have some Electric EG2 and I really like them. They have a very large field of view and in my opinion they look amazing. Mine are also compatible with my bern watts helmet.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:56 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I think the Oakley hi yellow lens is amazing for low light.
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:05 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Im happy with my Oakley Splice's tried on the Dragon APX's and I/O's and they just didnt seem as comfy, I tried them all on at a Ski-faire and liked the way they changed lenses easily. got for 78 which i thought was a pretty good deal compared to most UK prices

Best advice, i can give? use these forums to pick the top 3 to 5 goggles you want to check out then go to a shop and try them on. Only you can decide!
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I have some I/Os, they have been extremely good to me. I moved to them from a pair of bolle's nothing wrong with the bolle's but the smiths offer much more peripherals and fit to my helmet better. not to mention being able to change the lenses out so fast depending on conditions sure is nice. The only down side i have found to the I/Os is at least for me and the way my face is shaped, when i get hit with a cross wind the smiths do allow a little more air in through the goggle. Its not to the point of being a problem but it is noticeable

anyone tried the Dye goggles yet? I come from a paintball background where dye makes some of the best lenses in the game so I was rather excited to hear they were taking a stab at snow goggles. They seem expensive (which, truth be told is par for the course for Dye) but if they have taken what they have learned in paintball and applied it to snow goggles they should be a good pair of lenses
Yeah, I just picked up a pair of T1's made by Dye. So far, AWESOME. Have I used them on the snow yet? Sadly, no, because there isn't any snow up here yet. Also, from what I'm reading, polorized lenses may not be the way to go... they came with two sets: polorized and not.

Brian- ebay is a great place to buy goggles. I picked up my T1's for pretty cheap. But, my splice's I got from a local shop. If the price isn't to much different, support your local shops when possible!
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