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kaipirinha81 12-23-2012 04:04 PM

New Clothes
 
Hello everybody, I need to buy new clothes for snowboard, because my old clothes at the moment are not goog enough to maintain my body warm and dry during one day on the mountains.
I am looking for pants that should be very strong in waterproof because I sit on the snow many time and I don't want to get cold or wet while I am sitting on the snow.
Regarding the jacket I want a jacket that could keep me warm and dry under bad weather.
I pretend to spend +/- 200 dolar for the pants (if possible), and for the jacket I have found a special blend burner jacket
Special-Blend Burner Jacket Hot Box 2012 Chaquetas Snowboard | Surfdevils.com Tienda
what do you think?
Best regards

kaipirinha81 12-25-2012 03:57 AM

Hello can anybody give me a help I already bought the jacket (Special Blend burner), Now I need to decide some good pants. Please give me a help Ity's Christmas :)
Merry Christmas for everybody with happy trails

EatRideSleep 12-25-2012 09:04 PM

The jacket looks pretty good with 20k in both waterproofing and breathability...couldn't tell if it's a shell or insulated though?

If just a shell you'll be fine keeping warm with proper layering (base layers, etc, depending on the conditions/temps you ride). If insulated, you may not need as many layers. Every body is different with how hot or cold they run.

As for the pants. Are there any on that site you linked that you like? Like with the jacket, you'll have to do the same in terms of layering - depending on if the pants are a shell or insulated and what's comfortable for you.

Look for ones rated high in waterproofing and breathability, like you said. Especially if you're sitting in the snow often. At least 10k on the low end, I'd think.

If you got the same colorway as the jacket in the link, it looks like it could match a lot of different colorways in pants if that matters to you.

Happy shopping and Merry Christmas:)

kaipirinha81 12-26-2012 10:49 AM

Ok thank you I already purchase the Pants I purchased (Special blend Annex 15k 10mm/g) from the same shop where I purchased the jacket. i also noticed that the jacket and the Pants are not insulated, as I always suffer a lot with Cold, I deal better with high temperatures then lower temperatures, could anyone recommend some good warm Layers to use inside my new clothes, as I am newbie with this new shell concept.
Best regards

EatRideSleep 12-26-2012 09:12 PM

You're welcome.

Good to see you picked up some pants rated at 15/10.

Now for layering under those shells...

If you do a search here for "layering" or "base layers" you'll find a lot of information.

Brands like Patagonia, UnderArmour, Icebreakers, etc and most snowboarding brands like Airblaster, Dakine, Burton, etc offer base layers.

The shop you purchased the outerwear from might have base layers you can check out?

Best thing is to get layers with wicking properties. Stay away from materials such as cotton - cotton retains moisture so when you sweat, you'll be wet then cold.

Staying dry under your layers is key to keeping warm.

I prefer shells as outerwear. Depending on the temps - if it's really cold, I'll do a base layer top and bottom, a technical fleece on top, and something like a fleece or yoga pant, then my shells. But as I said, everyone's body runs temp differently. You really have to figure out what works best for you and consider the temps you'll be in.

Layering is ideal because you can always shed or add layers as needed on-hill. Versatile.

I like neck gaiters/face masks, too, especially for those wickedly windy days.

Put something on your head also. A helmet really does keep the heat in. But if you choose not to wear a helmet, get a warm hat.

Spend some time looking around the forum after doing a search to get some ideas, then check out your shop. Try some things on, ask the staff, see what feels comfortable to you. Brands and styles of layers I, or others, like may not be what you find works for you.

Good luck.

kaipirinha81 01-02-2013 10:55 AM

Hello again, first of all I wanna thank for the help, and Now I already have my jacket Shell and Pants Shell (from special blend) without insulation, I already bought some base layer made of 100%polyester (is that a good material for layer in snow). I used them for Mountain Bike in colder days, however I am afraid that they aren't warm enough for a cold day on the slopes (because they are very thin), althought I also have a Jacket From BUrton Ronin see the link below
On Sale Burton Ronin Biker Snowboard Jacket Sandstone up to 70% off
And I was thinking if this could be used as a soft-shell to use over my base layer and under my Special blend burner goretex Jacket shell.
Is it properly for use in this situation or should I buy something more specific for use betwen my base layer and OUter-shell.
If that is not recommended give your suggestions (you can leave the link or the model name) about a good warm soft-shell for me?
Best regards

EatRideSleep 01-03-2013 11:22 AM

You're welcome!

Polyester is fine as a synthetic base layer. The thing I don't love about it is that it tends to trap bacteria from sweat and ends up stinking! - even after a normal wash. Adding white vinegar to the rinse cycle helps break it down and neutralize the odors however.

If your mtn biking ones are thin, you'll probably want to layer more over those OR consider a thicker base layer. I generally use my thinner base layers in spring conditions.

This link has info on base layer tech and materials Underwear (Base Layer): How to Choose

Bamboo (which I don't think is listed on that link) is a natural fiber and renewable resource with wicking and antibacterial properties. I have bamboo socks I use for another sport and find the wicking is good and they don't smell like they trap bacteria from sweat. Also have a couple of thin base layers in bamboo that I haven't had a chance to test in riding conditions (spring).

I stay away from wool because imo, wool is intended for sheep :) But it does offer warmth and wicking, and people tend to really like it as a base.

Using that Burton jacket you linked might be overkill as a mid layer under your new shell. I'd say it all depends on if the combo is too heavy and/or restrictive. If you're not in super heavy white out conditions or spending a lot of time with your upper body on the snow, you might find that jacket is suitable as your outer layer. Just throw a base and mid layer beneath it. The weight (warmth rating) of those under layers will be based on how warm or cold you run. For example, you might be fine with the thin base and a light to medium mid layer under whatever thermacore insulation means. Or you might need thicker base and mid layers. You'll have to see.

If it turns out the Burton jacket doesn't work under your shell, here are some links to give you an idea for a mid layer. In a mid layer, you really don't need waterproofing, since you'll have your shell for that. But you WILL need breathability, which is what fabrics like fleece do.
Men's Fleece Jackets | evo
Men's ColdGear Clothing, Jackets & Accessories - Under Armour: ArmourŪ Fleece | US

This link has a little of both, but mostly base layers to give you some options if you decide the thin ones you have are not enough Men (Eternal Snow)

Good luck!


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