The "goggles under/over the helmet" thread

[NoOtherOptions]

Originally Posted by Extremo

Under...there's no advantage either way. Under looks better IMO.

Um there are advantages. Helmet's are not designed to be loose. It defeats the purpose. The more shit you put under the helmet, the less safe it is.

[Extremo]

Originally Posted by NoOtherOptions

Um there are advantages. Helmet's are not designed to be loose. It defeats the purpose. The more shit you put under the helmet, the less safe it is.

Acually by that logic the more shit you stuff under the helmet the less loose it is.

And you're right, there are advantages.

A) you can take off your helmet without having to take off your goggles with it
B) you don't look like a tool

I knew all the pro's were on to something

[Alex B]

Originally Posted by Extremo

Acually by that logic the more shit you stuff under the helmet the less loose it is.

And you're right, there are advantages.

A) you can take off your helmet without having to take off your goggles with it
B) you don't look like a tool

I knew all the pro's were on to something

Surely the helmet wouldn't be loose if it fits right in the first place?

I've never actually noticed how anyone else on the mountain wear their goggles. I wear mine over because I like to lift them quite regularly.

Alex B

[Thad Osprey]

Got a question for everyone on helmet tightness. Would there be a huge difference if I removed all the padding inside the helmet and replaced that with a beanie because the padding just didn't fit right but the beanie makes it fit so much better? I wonder if there is a scientific study on padding vs beanie in terms of influencing decceleration upon impact and impairing what the foam is supposed to do etc.

Seems like we got the goggles outside faction of the "taliban" posting on here and I would really like to see the evidence. Dismissing goggles inside as simply following the pros is quite an unhelpful stereotype. There is no "correct way" to wear them and goggles out can be really uncomfortable in terms of pressure points for lots of riders. I also find from observation (which is imperfect) that when riders fall, those with goggles worn outside have a higher chance of goggles displacing themselves opening them to injuries the goggles were meant to protect. Ever see those dudes picking themselves up with the goggles hanging off the helmet clip?

Moreover, the area where the goggle straps are when worn inside the helmet do not seem to impede the proper function of the helmet to an extent significant enough to impair the safety function of the helmet. If I had thicker hair at the side of the head 5 times the thickness of a goggle strap, am I more or less safe than the skinhead who wears his goggles outside?

And without clear evidence either way, it comes down to a matter of choice. C'mon people, this is a snowboarding forum. Leave the narrow mindedness for the skiers.

[liner]

Originally Posted by Thad Osprey

There is no "correct way" to wear them

this is a straight up fact. Unless your wearing them around your ankles.

When I wear my typical gettup, helmet, my pull over facemask, and a bandanna, which is 99% of the time, goggles are on the outside so i can lift them up when need be.

If i forget my facemask or bandana, I seem to end up putting my goggles under my helmet to tighten up the fit.

Also depending on what headphones I have on me, goggle straps can provide that extra suttin suttin to make em fit right.

No right way, just different ways.

[Alex B]

I would say replacing the padding with a beanie would be ok, the only thing that springs to mind is how slippery it may be, but that depends on what the inside of the helmet is like. Mine came with different thickness pads and all they are is foam pads that velcro inside, so I'd guess a beanie had the same level of impact absorbtion.

Mines only a cheapish helmet and that has cutouts for wearing goggles inside, so I imagine most helmets would be designed for either anyway. I may try wearing mine inside on holiday next week just to see if they're more comfortable, as I do suffer from pressure across my nose, (but I think thats more a case of the goggles not being a great fit).

Alex B

[Extremo]

Originally Posted by liner

this is a straight up fact. Unless your wearing them around your ankles.

When I wear my typical gettup, helmet, my pull over facemask, and a bandanna, which is 99% of the time, goggles are on the outside so i can lift them up when need be.

If i forget my facemask or bandana, I seem to end up putting my goggles under my helmet to tighten up the fit.

Also depending on what headphones I have on me, goggle straps can provide that extra suttin suttin to make em fit right.

No right way, just different ways.

Yep, another added benefit to wearing the goggles under...they hold my earbuds in place.

[Extremo]

Originally Posted by Thad Osprey

Got a question for everyone on helmet tightness. Would there be a huge difference if I removed all the padding inside the helmet and replaced that with a beanie because the padding just didn't fit right but the beanie makes it fit so much better? I wonder if there is a scientific study on padding vs beanie in terms of influencing decceleration upon impact and impairing what the foam is supposed to do etc.

Seems like we got the goggles outside faction of the "taliban" posting on here and I would really like to see the evidence. Dismissing goggles inside as simply following the pros is quite an unhelpful stereotype. There is no "correct way" to wear them and goggles out can be really uncomfortable in terms of pressure points for lots of riders. I also find from observation (which is imperfect) that when riders fall, those with goggles worn outside have a higher chance of goggles displacing themselves opening them to injuries the goggles were meant to protect. Ever see those dudes picking themselves up with the goggles hanging off the helmet clip?

Moreover, the area where the goggle straps are when worn inside the helmet do not seem to impede the proper function of the helmet to an extent significant enough to impair the safety function of the helmet. If I had thicker hair at the side of the head 5 times the thickness of a goggle strap, am I more or less safe than the skinhead who wears his goggles outside?

And without clear evidence either way, it comes down to a matter of choice. C'mon people, this is a snowboarding forum. Leave the narrow mindedness for the skiers.

I own a couple of helmets as does my son and GF. Each of the helmets padding is different, by either thickness or density. I would assume that it doesn't matter if you pull the padding out and wear a beanie under instead. The padding doesn't look like it provides any added protection and is just a measure of comfort.

But, I'm no expert.

[Karpediem]

People who wear their goggles under the helmet look like their mom forced them to wear a helmet before they could go ride and she put the helmet on for them. The pros look like their sponsor quickly caught them before they headed out and said "Here, throw this on quick!" To each their own, but I haven't seen a "goggle under the helmet" setup ever look good, and most the time it doesn't even look like the helmet would offer any protection the way they are wearing it.

[binarypie]

Originally Posted by Extremo

I own a couple of helmets as does my son and GF. Each of the helmets padding is different, by either thickness or density. I would assume that it doesn't matter if you pull the padding out and wear a beanie under instead. The padding doesn't look like it provides any added protection and is just a measure of comfort.

But, I'm no expert.

Most of my helmets don't really have padding but more of a harness to hold your head into a specific location.