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Mfoehrkolb 01-26-2013 10:33 PM

Making my first outerwear purchase. Opinions.
 
Jacket Choice:
http://www.the-house.com/ne3cprj02bk...d-jackets.html

Pant Choice:
http://www.the-house.com/gr4arc02gr1...ard-pants.html

Thoughts on the quality etc. feedback wanted before i pay.
Will this suffice for VT mountain conditions?

TacomaDoA 02-01-2013 12:07 AM

I have always thought, and I could be wrong, that Neff or Grenade weren't really the best companies in terms of outerwear. I assume that you want to stay in the price range of each so I would recommend taking a look at Evo.com and especially their outlet section. Everything is like an extra 27% off. Just briefly glancing through, I see that there are Holden, Airblaster, Analog, etc pants under the price of the Grenade pants(and all of those brands are way better than Grenade) and as for jackets it looks like there is Analog, Bonfire, Airblaster, Burton, and Ride at least which are for sure better than Neff. All of the brands I listed will almost definitely have more features/waterproofness/breathability than that Neff jacket or Grenade pants imho.

Hope this helps!

Mfoehrkolb 02-01-2013 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TacomaDoA (Post 662801)
I have always thought, and I could be wrong, that Neff or Grenade weren't really the best companies in terms of outerwear. I assume that you want to stay in the price range of each so I would recommend taking a look at Evo.com and especially their outlet section. Everything is like an extra 27% off. Just briefly glancing through, I see that there are Holden, Airblaster, Analog, etc pants under the price of the Grenade pants(and all of those brands are way better than Grenade) and as for jackets it looks like there is Analog, Bonfire, Airblaster, Burton, and Ride at least which are for sure better than Neff. All of the brands I listed will almost definitely have more features/waterproofness/breathability than that Neff jacket or Grenade pants imho.

Hope this helps!

--- Wish you/someone would have said something 3 days ago. I went ahead and put my order in. I actually got the jacket for 106$ and the pants for free (was a buy 1 get on free deal)... So i literally paid 106$ out the door. Thank you for the response, and hopefully this outerwear does hold up to the VT temperatures.

snowklinger 02-01-2013 01:21 AM

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john doe 02-01-2013 07:21 AM

For $106 that is not a bad buy in any way. Even if you upgrade they will still be good back ups. My Burton goretex gear was bought used off of ebay. I don't regret buying used one bit. I paid ~$250 for a set that retailed for $700.

TacomaDoA 02-01-2013 10:50 AM

$106 isn't bad at all. Just remember that if you use them and they aren't working out as well as you would like, that they were basically only $53 each. Like John Doe said, when you upgrade they will be good backups.

From what I understand, the Northeast gets cold as tits so I would make sure that you have enough insulating layers because that Neff jacket certainly doesn't have very much if any.

Mfoehrkolb 02-01-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by john doe (Post 663289)
For $106 that is not a bad buy in any way. Even if you upgrade they will still be good back ups. My Burton goretex gear was bought used off of ebay. I don't regret buying used one bit. I paid ~$250 for a set that retailed for $700.

--- I really wish i would have gotten some replies before i put the order in. I am new to the scene so i just went off of what i read... According to the article/review i read (independent from neff or grenade) "the jacket is light, but don't let that fool you. It kept me very warm."

So i just went off of that really. I started boarding last year and borrowed all my gear from a friend (same size luckily) the only bad experience i had was wet gloves/cold hands... His gear seemed to be around the same thickness, idk about quality... but once i did a run or 2, i was sweating bullets. The glove situation ruined my day though. Was so bad to the point that my fingers were literally turning blue in color.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TacomaDoA (Post 663881)
$106 isn't bad at all. Just remember that if you use them and they aren't working out as well as you would like, that they were basically only $53 each. Like John Doe said, when you upgrade they will be good backups.

From what I understand, the Northeast gets cold as tits so I would make sure that you have enough insulating layers because that Neff jacket certainly doesn't have very much if any.

--- The only person i had helping me was my girlfriend, and she isn't very well informed. Just kept warning me VT slopes are WAY colder than PA slopes. As i said above, i went off of what i read since nobody responded for a few days. Yeah though, 106 for pants and jackets isn't half bad lol. I tried the stuff on, and the jacket has those clips on the underskirt which is a nice feature. The jacket i wore last year didn't have that.

Once i throw on my under armor, thermal pants and thermal shirt, i am pretty sure i will be good to go with the layers/warmth issue on my body.


Is there any gloves that you would recommend from the clearance section on evo.com? I would rather save a few bucks and get last years models. Again my ignorance comes into play and not knowing what to get.

TacomaDoA 02-01-2013 03:13 PM

Let me know what size you wear and what you are looking to spend and I'll see what's up. I would always recommend Gore-Tex because I have never been let down by it but I have heard people that like Hipora too. Just briefly glancing on the outlet section, I see there are some Gore Tex Burton Under Gloves which are what I have. The only complaint I have for them is from my own idiocy. I didn't make the connection that "under" meant under the cuff.... I had a pair of Gore Tex Burton gloves for a couple seasons and there was practically no signs of all the falls that were taken on them. They are also come with a liner so they are 3-1s which is great for flexibility.

john doe 02-01-2013 04:02 PM

For cheap gloves check out the outdoors stores like Cabela and Bass Pro Shop. Like this Cabela's: Cabela's GORE-TEX® Thinsulate™ Deluxe II Shooting Gloves Not much difference between that and a "snowboard" glove.

I personally suggest mittens if it is going to be really cold. There just a lot less surface area to let heat out or water in. Also remember to keep your core and arms warm if you get cold hands. If your core is warm then your body move blood to your hands to shed excess heat and you hands stay warm.

Mfoehrkolb 02-01-2013 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TacomaDoA (Post 665257)
Let me know what size you wear and what you are looking to spend and I'll see what's up. I would always recommend Gore-Tex because I have never been let down by it but I have heard people that like Hipora too. Just briefly glancing on the outlet section, I see there are some Gore Tex Burton Under Gloves which are what I have. The only complaint I have for them is from my own idiocy. I didn't make the connection that "under" meant under the cuff.... I had a pair of Gore Tex Burton gloves for a couple seasons and there was practically no signs of all the falls that were taken on them. They are also come with a liner so they are 3-1s which is great for flexibility.

--- I would think a Medium for a tight fit (which i would prefer), but a large i can get away with too.

Under the cuff is better or no?


Quote:

Originally Posted by john doe (Post 665385)
For cheap gloves check out the outdoors stores like Cabela and Bass Pro Shop. Like this Cabela's: Cabela's GORE-TEX® Thinsulate™ Deluxe II Shooting Gloves Not much difference between that and a "snowboard" glove.

I personally suggest mittens if it is going to be really cold. There just a lot less surface area to let heat out or water in. Also remember to keep your core and arms warm if you get cold hands. If your core is warm then your body move blood to your hands to shed excess heat and you hands stay warm.

--- My core is generally never cold... i have really bad circulation though in my hands and feet. So once my hands hit cold, the veins go in slacker mode lol. I work out 5-6 days a week, and i'll be sweating my ass off in the gym, but my hands and feet will be stone cold still lol. The only way i can normally get my hands back to normal is by running them under cold, then warm, then really hot water for a good 5 min. I'm an oddball with blood circulation.


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