Kjerstin, you seem to be very helpful when it comes to this topic. Can you please tell me what waterproof level I should stick with for snowboarding in Flagstaff, Arizona and the White Mountains in Arizona? I am 5'10, a size 4-6, and I fit into a medium snowboard pant pretty well (large is way too big). DC seems to be pretty good in length, and I love the Ace pant, but it is only 5,000mm and it seems like all of my friends that I am going snowboarding with have 10,000mm pants. This is my first time so I'm not really sure what to look for. I bought Aperture pants in lime green that I love, but they feel like high waters when I have my boots on. They barely touch the ground when I am barefoot, and they don't bunch in the front by my foot, they fall flat. What do you think?