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Dakine 11L vs 20L heli pack?

Looking at getting a pack to ride with and was looking at the Dakine heli pack but unsure if 20L would be too big and bulky and be a problem on lift or if the 11L would be too small for much. Anybody have experience and can chime in? Appreciated.

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Rethink carrying a pack unless you're in the bc especially since you're still getting form and skills down. Otherwise 11l for inbounds, carrying layers and small items; 20l for bc/heli/cat/splitting
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Rethink carrying a pack unless you're in the bc especially since you're still getting form and skills down. Otherwise 11l for inbounds, carrying layers and small items; 20l for bc/heli/cat/splitting
Hadn't really considered that, do you think wearing the 11l pack with some small items in it would make any difference in form and skill at a beginner level? Me coming into my 2nd season this coming winter.

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Hadn't really considered that, do you think wearing the 11l pack with some small items in it would make any difference in form and skill at a beginner level? Me coming into my 2nd season this coming winter.
meh, it could. Maybe! In the beginning I hated stopping for anything! A drink, food, takin' a piss, whatever! (plus I Hate having a lot of shit in my pockets!) I rode a lot my first season & half with one of two camelbak packs! One a 70ml (water capacity, not pack volume!) with two small pockets, the other a Big 100ml (same, water not pack) pack with room enough for the kitchen sink!

I don't know for sure if it hurt my progression or not, I did notice a difference when I stopped riding with them regularly! I Just felt a little less restricted! I prefer to ride without now, but manage fine when I want to carry a shitload of GoPro stuff & whatnot! You will have to sit cockeyed on the lift, some places make you one shoulder it! Depends on the resort or the "lifty!"

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Hadn't really considered that, do you think wearing the 11l pack with some small items in it would make any difference in form and skill at a beginner level? Me coming into my 2nd season this coming winter.
It it quite likely to have a negative impact, especially for relative beginners - it took me a while to get used to riding with a pack. And after I got comfortable with it I took some lessons to correct all the bad habits it introduced to my technique.
So I would say avoid it if possible, especially for resort riding. That said, the German/European resorts that you seem to be riding tend to be a bit weak in terms of facilities/amenities, so it might make sense to carry some essentials - but I would really try to keep it to a minimum.
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meh, it could. Maybe! In the beginning I hated stopping for anything! A drink, food, takin' a piss, whatever! (plus I Hate having a lot of shit in my pockets!) [SNIP]
I generally think it is preferable to stop for piss - unless I am locked into a super long carve or on a boring traverse

And even without personal experience, I would really recommend against shitting in your pockets
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I generally think it is preferable to stop for piss - unless I am locked into a super long carve or on a boring traverse

And even without personal experience, I would really recommend against shitting in your pockets

Very good! Well played!

Honestly tho, when I first started riding, I really didn't want to stop for anything!! And running like I was even on our short assed Mi runs, from first to last chair, I was sweating out as much as I was putting in! Didn't really need to piss much!

As for the pockets,.. I agree! (....that's why I shit in the pack! LOL!)

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I have the 11 L pack and wear it all the time I'm riding, mostly just has water and a spare pair of goggles in it. If you pull the straps tight its pretty low profile just remember to do the waist strap up so it doesn't get caught in the lift chairs.
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It it quite likely to have a negative impact, especially for relative beginners - it took me a while to get used to riding with a pack. And after I got comfortable with it I took some lessons to correct all the bad habits it introduced to my technique.
So I would say avoid it if possible, especially for resort riding. That said, the German/European resorts that you seem to be riding tend to be a bit weak in terms of facilities/amenities, so it might make sense to carry some essentials - but I would really try to keep it to a minimum.
I can see where that is a valid point, which I guess kinda leads me to another question unrelated to the bag one. I got in a ton of snowboarding last season riding every weekend but a few, and on a local hill some weekends as well, but am basically self taught since day 1 from trail and error and seeing others while up on the mountains. Im sure ive got nothing but bad habits in my technique, should I really bother getting lessons? Being an american who only speaks english in germany (and ive got 2 more years here) I wonder how accessable lessons would even be for me here.

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I can see where that is a valid point, which I guess kinda leads me to another question unrelated to the bag one. I got in a ton of snowboarding last season riding every weekend but a few, and on a local hill some weekends as well, but am basically self taught since day 1 from trail and error and seeing others while up on the mountains. Im sure ive got nothing but bad habits in my technique, should I really bother getting lessons? Being an american who only speaks english in germany (and ive got 2 more years here) I wonder how accessable lessons would even be for me here.
For sure get lessons. There are plenty of English speaking snowboarding instructors in continental Europe, including Germany. Even if you wind up with somebody who is not used to teaching in English, the vocab and concepts are not rocket science. Very well worth addressing bad habits early on in your progression.
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