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Old 05-06-2014, 04:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i personally think his site sucks. but I do enjoy his rants and his blunt 'fuck you, you suck' attitude.
but he was right, song choice sucked, vid was too long saw alot of the same stuff but it wasnt the worst thing i've ever seen. I bet you could remake it into something much better if youre more selective with your clips and keep the long version for yourself to see how you progress year to year.
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I just wanted to put a badass face to an internet badass. I could care less what he thinks is good. I just think he's half the man in real life he pretends to be on the internet. The snowboard industry wouldn't even blink if he and his site were no longer in existence but he somehow he has determined on his own, this high standard of acceptable practice that results in him ripping newbs to shreds to inflate his own ego. And along the way he's determined it's all for the future success of snowboarding. How's it feel knowing the closest you'll come to ever getting laid is your nightly fantasies of skull fucking my mom with a chainsaw?
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I gave up on making edits for me, but I do enjoy making them for Sneaky, cos he is a cool young man who loves his boarding...

Your edit however, I cannot comment on, for the simple fact that i can't see it due to copyright violations...!

I too have a YouTube account, which has vids with 1000's of views, but after having one removed for breaching copyright after 22500 views, I now just post shit on there...

VIMEO only from now on...! Oh, and mine work on most devices...

So I will plug his season edit on here as well for him... Haha



Sebastian (8) 3rd Year Snowboarding on Vimeo

See how easy that is, no copyright issues, it plays, and has better quality...

Now can we get back to BA being angry, I was enjoying that... Haha
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I see some people are a bunch of butt hurt bleeding vaginas. Good to know that there's still a generation of fucking pussies out there that can't take blunt straight to the point criticism. World would be far better if people just said what they're thinking. Oh no I was offended, oh no someone on the Internet was mean. Oh no, this. Oh no, that. SACK THE FUCK UP.

I also love the "no one would notice he's gone" comment. That one always makes me laugh.

Here's how you make a good edit with mediocre riding and editing ability.

1. Song choice. This is the make or break it. If it was popular in the last 5 years, don't use it. If it was in a main snowboard movie, don't use it (unless 10 or more years has elapsed). If its a horrible modern remix of a song that sampled a classic, you guessed it! DON'T USE IT! Also don't just slap a song in because you like it, edit the clips to the actual music and make it match up. If the pace slows down, slow a clip. If there's a good slam and the base drops or there's a hard drum hit or face melting guitar solo, make it match!

2. Length. The attention span of the average Internet user is decreasing by the day as we as a society integrate new standards of what social media is. The rule for an edit is 2.5 to 3 minutes if it's actually good, otherwise the saying "keep it short and sweet" comes into play. Truth be told most peoples edits should be about 1 to 1.5 minutes.

3. Filler shots. Filler is used to establish what is going on and the overall tone. Slapping random B-roll or filler in will not work. This goes back to what I said in number 1, make it match! If you are going to start with filler/b-roll you have roughly 15 to 25 seconds to capture the viewers attention, after that it's all down hill. Use this wisely.

4. The first real clip needs to capture the viewers attention. A 6 stair 10 foot urban rail is not that. A failed backflip shot at dusk in low light is not it. This shot needs to be either a mild to slightly above average banger that piques interest or someone doing a double cork and cutting off someones head in a freak accident. See my point here?

5. Slams should be shown in one of three ways. 1) Attempt at trick (can be filmed from multiple angles if need be) then followed by landing of said trick. 2) As a segway from one section into another i.e. urban into park or vice versa. This way it keeps the viewer entertained while setting them up with a brief intermission into the next chapter. 3) The full on ender that is just slams where people eat shit repeatedly. This once again keeps the viewer entertained till the end of the edit.

6. White balance, exposure, color correction, etc. etc. Make sure this is perfect. Regardless if you're using iMovie or Final Cut X or any of its other versions. There is no reason to include clips that are dark or lower substandard quality. If you can't fix it, don't use it.

7. Vimeo is king right now for snowboard edits vs YouTube. So what if YouTube has a bigger viewer basis and broader demographic. Vimeo doesn't degrade quality, slap you with copyright infringements, and generally suck. There's a reason 99.8% of all featured snowboard edits on the big snowboarding sites are shared off Vimeo. Know it, use it, love it!

8. It's the Internet, no matter how good you are at editing, no matter how good the riding is, no matter if it's giving free handjobs and kittens someone is going to say your edit sucks. Live with the criticism and see if you can learn from it.

9. Re editing is always an option.

10. If you can't get it right the final nuclear button holocaust save your ass play is make it sepia tone, throw some Slayer or similar metal at it, slap a few Ken Burns in, and just let it ride. The hipsters and general snowboard video enthusiasts will just go with "it's raw and gritty, I'm down". Just don't make this how you do all edits or people will pass you over.
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You people want to see a good end of season edit?

Here.

Loving this Max Lyons. Was hoping to see his edit this season as I remember his video and thread from last. Plus, he's so humble, open to comments, and seems like an all around nice guy.


From the land of Cro. Shouldn't be surprised haha.

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Good to know that there's still a generation of fucking pussies out there that can't take blunt straight to the point criticism.
I know it really sucks when you have provoke someone into a rant just to get them to provide constructive criticism.
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I see some people are a bunch of butt hurt bleeding vaginas. Good to know that there's still a generation of fucking pussies out there that can't take blunt straight to the point criticism. World would be far better if people just said what they're thinking. Oh no I was offended, oh no someone on the Internet was mean. Oh no, this. Oh no, that. SACK THE FUCK UP.

I also love the "no one would notice he's gone" comment. That one always makes me laugh.

Here's how you make a good edit with mediocre riding and editing ability.

1. Song choice. This is the make or break it. If it was popular in the last 5 years, don't use it. If it was in a main snowboard movie, don't use it (unless 10 or more years has elapsed). If its a horrible modern remix of a song that sampled a classic, you guessed it! DON'T USE IT! Also don't just slap a song in because you like it, edit the clips to the actual music and make it match up. If the pace slows down, slow a clip. If there's a good slam and the base drops or there's a hard drum hit or face melting guitar solo, make it match!

2. Length. The attention span of the average Internet user is decreasing by the day as we as a society integrate new standards of what social media is. The rule for an edit is 2.5 to 3 minutes if it's actually good, otherwise the saying "keep it short and sweet" comes into play. Truth be told most peoples edits should be about 1 to 1.5 minutes.

3. Filler shots. Filler is used to establish what is going on and the overall tone. Slapping random B-roll or filler in will not work. This goes back to what I said in number 1, make it match! If you are going to start with filler/b-roll you have roughly 15 to 25 seconds to capture the viewers attention, after that it's all down hill. Use this wisely.

4. The first real clip needs to capture the viewers attention. A 6 stair 10 foot urban rail is not that. A failed backflip shot at dusk in low light is not it. This shot needs to be either a mild to slightly above average banger that piques interest or someone doing a double cork and cutting off someones head in a freak accident. See my point here?

5. Slams should be shown in one of three ways. 1) Attempt at trick (can be filmed from multiple angles if need be) then followed by landing of said trick. 2) As a segway from one section into another i.e. urban into park or vice versa. This way it keeps the viewer entertained while setting them up with a brief intermission into the next chapter. 3) The full on ender that is just slams where people eat shit repeatedly. This once again keeps the viewer entertained till the end of the edit.

6. White balance, exposure, color correction, etc. etc. Make sure this is perfect. Regardless if you're using iMovie or Final Cut X or any of its other versions. There is no reason to include clips that are dark or lower substandard quality. If you can't fix it, don't use it.

7. Vimeo is king right now for snowboard edits vs YouTube. So what if YouTube has a bigger viewer basis and broader demographic. Vimeo doesn't degrade quality, slap you with copyright infringements, and generally suck. There's a reason 99.8% of all featured snowboard edits on the big snowboarding sites are shared off Vimeo. Know it, use it, love it!

8. It's the Internet, no matter how good you are at editing, no matter how good the riding is, no matter if it's giving free handjobs and kittens someone is going to say your edit sucks. Live with the criticism and see if you can learn from it.

9. Re editing is always an option.

10. If you can't get it right the final nuclear button holocaust save your ass play is make it sepia tone, throw some Slayer or similar metal at it, slap a few Ken Burns in, and just let it ride. The hipsters and general snowboard video enthusiasts will just go with "it's raw and gritty, I'm down". Just don't make this how you do all edits or people will pass you over.
Thanks man this stuff actually is really helpful haha. Sorry if I came off as a vag before. I'll try and make a shorter edit with just some of the better shots and use a different song.
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Loving this Max Lyons. Was hoping to see his edit this season as I remember his video and thread from last. Plus, he's so humble, open to comments, and seems like an all around nice guy.


From the land of Cro. Shouldn't be surprised haha.
Cro used to teach him. Hence why he's got that buttery ass style.
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Loving this Max Lyons. Was hoping to see his edit this season as I remember his video and thread from last. Plus, he's so humble, open to comments, and seems like an all around nice guy.


From the land of Cro. Shouldn't be surprised haha.
max is a super chill kid, i actually use to coach him back in the day when he was still learning how to spin frontside and front board thru kinks.

as for the edit, pretty much every BA said is on point in regards to how a edit should be put together.


EDIT: ha didn't see BA's post before I posted, but yes, I make sure every kid I coach has a buttery style or else I make them do gaper runs.
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I see some people are a bunch of butt hurt bleeding vaginas. Good to know that there's still a generation of fucking pussies out there that can't take blunt straight to the point criticism. World would be far better if people just said what they're thinking. Oh no I was offended, oh no someone on the Internet was mean. Oh no, this. Oh no, that. SACK THE FUCK UP.

I also love the "no one would notice he's gone" comment. That one always makes me laugh.

Here's how you make a good edit with mediocre riding and editing ability.

1. Song choice. This is the make or break it. If it was popular in the last 5 years, don't use it. If it was in a main snowboard movie, don't use it (unless 10 or more years has elapsed). If its a horrible modern remix of a song that sampled a classic, you guessed it! DON'T USE IT! Also don't just slap a song in because you like it, edit the clips to the actual music and make it match up. If the pace slows down, slow a clip. If there's a good slam and the base drops or there's a hard drum hit or face melting guitar solo, make it match!

2. Length. The attention span of the average Internet user is decreasing by the day as we as a society integrate new standards of what social media is. The rule for an edit is 2.5 to 3 minutes if it's actually good, otherwise the saying "keep it short and sweet" comes into play. Truth be told most peoples edits should be about 1 to 1.5 minutes.

3. Filler shots. Filler is used to establish what is going on and the overall tone. Slapping random B-roll or filler in will not work. This goes back to what I said in number 1, make it match! If you are going to start with filler/b-roll you have roughly 15 to 25 seconds to capture the viewers attention, after that it's all down hill. Use this wisely.

4. The first real clip needs to capture the viewers attention. A 6 stair 10 foot urban rail is not that. A failed backflip shot at dusk in low light is not it. This shot needs to be either a mild to slightly above average banger that piques interest or someone doing a double cork and cutting off someones head in a freak accident. See my point here?

5. Slams should be shown in one of three ways. 1) Attempt at trick (can be filmed from multiple angles if need be) then followed by landing of said trick. 2) As a segway from one section into another i.e. urban into park or vice versa. This way it keeps the viewer entertained while setting them up with a brief intermission into the next chapter. 3) The full on ender that is just slams where people eat shit repeatedly. This once again keeps the viewer entertained till the end of the edit.

6. White balance, exposure, color correction, etc. etc. Make sure this is perfect. Regardless if you're using iMovie or Final Cut X or any of its other versions. There is no reason to include clips that are dark or lower substandard quality. If you can't fix it, don't use it.

7. Vimeo is king right now for snowboard edits vs YouTube. So what if YouTube has a bigger viewer basis and broader demographic. Vimeo doesn't degrade quality, slap you with copyright infringements, and generally suck. There's a reason 99.8% of all featured snowboard edits on the big snowboarding sites are shared off Vimeo. Know it, use it, love it!

8. It's the Internet, no matter how good you are at editing, no matter how good the riding is, no matter if it's giving free handjobs and kittens someone is going to say your edit sucks. Live with the criticism and see if you can learn from it.

9. Re editing is always an option.

10. If you can't get it right the final nuclear button holocaust save your ass play is make it sepia tone, throw some Slayer or similar metal at it, slap a few Ken Burns in, and just let it ride. The hipsters and general snowboard video enthusiasts will just go with "it's raw and gritty, I'm down". Just don't make this how you do all edits or people will pass you over.
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