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Nose Press 12-10-2011 04:02 PM

7D or 5D Mark II
 
Hey guys, I'm an experienced cinematographer, and I've been working in the game for about 7 year, shooting with cameras such as RED One, Redrock micro, Panasonic HMC-150, and Panasonic HMC-40p. But recently I've been looking for a new camera, because my old one is falling behind in the fast paced world of film, and that camera happens to be the Panasonic HMC- 40p. After shooting with a DSLR on one shoot I almost fell in love with the video quality and the great dof, so I've been searching the market trying to figure out which camera I should buy.

The Canon 7D or The Canon 5D Mark II

If any ones has experience with either of these cameras, let me know what your advice is and suggest some lenses.

P.S. I'm on a budget :laugh:

thanks
-Matt

WasatchMan 12-10-2011 09:18 PM

The 7D is fantastic, my roommate has one, shoots incredible video too.

But of course if you can step up for the 5D - go for that - you will not regret it :)

Honestly though, for such a big purchase - please join a forum specific for this. You will get a lot better information, those guys live and breathe this stuff.

Squints 12-10-2011 11:25 PM

If you're on a budget, I would just go with a 7d and with the extra money, invest in some nice L series glass.

mangtarn 12-10-2011 11:56 PM

now the posts above did not mention the single greatest difference between the two. the 7D is crop sensor and the 5DMkII is a full frame. now ask yourself if you need a full frame or a crop sensor is enough for your needs. i don't know what you need it for so i can't recommend anything to you.

lonerider 12-11-2011 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nose Press (Post 451534)
Hey guys, I'm an experienced cinematographer, and I've been working in the game for about 7 year, shooting with cameras such as RED One, Redrock micro, Panasonic HMC-150, and Panasonic HMC-40p.
-Matt

What's your Youtube account?

Nose Press 12-11-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mangtarn (Post 451662)
now the posts above did not mention the single greatest difference between the two. the 7D is crop sensor and the 5DMkII is a full frame. now ask yourself if you need a full frame or a crop sensor is enough for your needs. i don't know what you need it for so i can't recommend anything to you.

Right now I'm a cinematographer for many short films in the highschool film world, but I want a DSLR for my freelance stuff, such as snowboarding, wakeboarding and skateboarding. I also know about the 5D's full frame and it does not sound too appealing, and glass jumps by about $200

lonerider 12-11-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nose Press (Post 451790)
Right now I'm a cinematographer for many short films in the highschool film world, but I want a DSLR for my freelance stuff, such as snowboarding, wakeboarding and skateboarding. I also know about the 5D's full frame and it does not sound too appealing, and glass jumps by about $200

How much are your parents wiling to pay? I would assume that alone would take the 5D out of the picture since it costs $800 more.

The 7D has better video modes - 1920 x 1080 (30, 25, 24 fps), 1280 x 720 (60, 50 fps), 640 x 480 (60, 50 fps)
5D -1920 x 1080 (30 fps), 640 x 480 (30 fps).


The full frame of the 5D is going to give you better image noise performance at high ISO, which I think won't be that useful for what you are doing).

Nose Press 12-11-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lonerider (Post 451798)
How much are your parents wiling to pay? I would assume that alone would take the 5D out of the picture since it costs $800 more.

The 7D has better video modes - 1920 x 1080 (30, 25, 24 fps), 1280 x 720 (60, 50 fps), 640 x 480 (60, 50 fps)
5D -1920 x 1080 (30 fps), 640 x 480 (30 fps).


The full frame of the 5D is going to give you better image noise performance at high ISO, which I think won't be that useful for what you are doing).

I need more shooting options such as the 7D because I use twixtor a lot, and the footy needs to be 60 fps or it looks awkward. My parents are willing to help me out on the body but the lenses are up to me, so I have about 9 bones saved up...
any suggestions on lenses, I really want to get a 85mm prime for insane focus pulls, but that lens is a grand :laugh:
What Canon L glass should I get?

lonerider 12-11-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nose Press (Post 451808)
I need more shooting options such as the 7D because I use twixtor a lot, and the footy needs to be 60 fps or it looks awkward. My parents are willing to help me out on the body but the lenses are up to me, so I have about 9 bones saved up...
any suggestions on lenses, I really want to get a 85mm prime for insane focus pulls, but that lens is a grand :laugh:
What Canon L glass should I get?

I agree that to need at least 60fps for slow motion sequences, even with twixtor.

In my opinion you are not really going to notice the difference between the 85 mm non-L and L lens (which is actually closer to two grand)
. Also without a micro red like setup doing a smooth focus adjustment is going to be hard. I would suggest getting some non-L priyesh for practice then renting from borrowlenses.com, you can rent a Canon 85 L for the weekend for only 60bucks... Which is more cost effective I think. They also rent some even higher end cinema lenses for Canon mounts.

Good luck and would love to see your videos if you have them posted online.

Nose Press 12-11-2011 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lonerider (Post 451845)
I agree that to need at least 60fps for slow motion sequences, even with twixtor.

In my opinion you are not really going to notice the difference between the 85 mm non-L and L lens (which is actually closer to two grand)
. Also without a micro red like setup doing a smooth focus adjustment is going to be hard. I would suggest getting some non-L priyesh for practice then renting from borrowlenses.com, you can rent a Canon 85 L for the weekend for only 60bucks... Which is more cost effective I think. They also rent some even higher end cinema lenses for Canon mounts.

Good luck and would love to see your videos if you have them posted online.


I've been wanting to throw up some of my freelance videos sometime, but I'll have to get the files from my clients :D My shorts aren't on the internet due to contest rules such as Tribecka film festival "If you released it on the internet... No entry". But if I get time to get some freelance stuff together I'll hit you up. Btw for the focus pulls I would buy a baseplate with rails and get a nice follow focus and focus rings, most likely both Gini.


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