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01-16-2009, 09:01 AM
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I believe that criticism for my country when it is deserved and needed is actually a form of patriotism; for how can we grow and evolve as a nation if we never face our dark side?
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wokka wokka wokka! 
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01-17-2009, 05:21 PM
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#132 (permalink)
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So let's recap now that there is a tentative cease-fire:
-1200 dead, of which 410 are children and 108 women, plus over 5000 wounded. Who knows how many old men are part of that, basically the IDF is such a military surgical instrument it can't help but kill an innocent for every Hamas fighter. Documented use of White Phosphorous in populated areas with direct strikes on refugee camps and a school.
-2500 air strikes in a densely populated area which the IDF says they warned people by dropping leaflets and 120,000 phone calls and text message to evacuate the area. Gaza is surrounded by a fence so there is no where to go.
-4000 residential buildings, 51 gov't buildings and 20 mosques have been leveled in the 22 day invasion. Amounts to 14 percent of all the buildings in Gaza strip and is estimated at 500 million dollars to rebuild a nation that has nothing to begin with.
-Extensive list of damages also includes roadways, schools and the electrical grids and water supply.
-No foreign press has been allowed in the area so this isn't even the true picture of the damage.
-And a cease-fire that the IDF claims will be broken if ANY group attacks the IDF...while they continue to occupy Gaza.
Conclusion: Israel wants to see the utter destruction of the Palestinian people. It's no wonder that Vlaze turned tail and ran at having to defend the practices of a country that is no better than the very Nazis it despises.
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01-17-2009, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Perpetual3am
Conclusion: Israel wants to see the utter destruction of the Palestinian people. It's no wonder that Vlaze turned tail and ran at having to defend the practices of a country that is no better than the very Nazis it despises.
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It's no wonder ignorance and moronic responses fail to enlighten the human race. Maybe if you read what I wrote, you would realize my debate was mainly the factual side of the history, not their tactics they are using now which I already continually mentioned that I did not agree with. They have a right to retaliate after years of rocket bombardages, they do not have a right to just kill anyone in their sight, plain and simple. As for the comment as destruction of "Palestian people" that's so skewed not even worth commenting on.
Is exactly why I stopped bothering with posting in here, to many words shoved in my mouth from naysayers thinking and then claiming I meant something based how they perceived it which was far from the truth.
Don't let your balls drop on you now with cheap shots when I give my peace on a thread and go my way, go back to your continual spewing and back up my point, carry on. 
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Last edited by Vlaze : 01-17-2009 at 07:59 PM.
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01-18-2009, 09:57 AM
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Well shit, that did`nt last long...I need to catch up on the details, but the wire services are now reporting that Hamas has fired rockets into Israel and now Israel is once again responding. This one looks like Hamas hasinstigated the problem and of course Israel is likely to go overboard in the response. I think this one is a big shit stain on Hamas from what I am hearing.
Gawd, I hate all of them..... 
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01-18-2009, 12:16 PM
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I don't know about you Sno, but if a country invaded mine, destroyed everything and then agreed to a cease-fire while still occupying the country but would end it in a heart beat if ANYONE, not just Hamas, attacked them, I would still keep fighting on. You condemn Hamas, but why doesn't the IDF just leave now that they've completely fucked Gaza? It works both ways and I'm not fooled into thinking the IDF is committed to a cease-fire given what they've already done.
Nice that you point out moronic statements Vlaze, like this one that you began this debate with:
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This is a war going back to centuries in the past that has to do with the holy land Israel occupies. Basically, Hamas was not given control of Gaza nor elected but it was a Palestine controlled area given over by Israel that was overrun by Hamas and now under their control. Hamas starts the warfare, asking Israel to give over border control to allow people to go in and out as they please and reality is, if they did this Hamas will still not stop.
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Yeah, that sounds like the factual side of history. Biased much? {sarc}
Especially when you use phrases like "cowardly attacks" by Hamas when the IDF have literally killed a woman or child for every suspected Hamas fighter. What could be more cowardly than that? What about the WP rounds used? Nothing like the brave use of that on a refugee camp or school.
And Vlaze I can't even understand what you're going on about when you write nonsense like this:
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Don't let your balls drop on you now with cheap shots when I give my peace on a thread and go my way, go back to your continual spewing and back up my point, carry on.
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Seriously, wtf does that even mean? I'm guessing English isn't your first language?
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01-18-2009, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Perpetual3am
Yeah, that sounds like the factual side of history.
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If you read further, you would see I was corrected on the "election" portion already, and I already replied he was absolutely right. I don't fear being in the wrong and not puffing up a chest refusing to be corrected, can you say the same? That was the only point made that was wrong in a historical reference. Biased? Based on history, not at all. And for the record from a reply you put up a while back, yes I am well aware of the foundation of Hamas.
As for the rest of what's been going on , date my responses on when I went on about Hamas and their methods, is well before the attacks carried on to the toll collecting innocents they have. Apparently for your understanding I need to repeat myself endless to get through your thick skull I never promote nor agree with innocents being killed.
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Seriously, wtf does that even mean? I'm guessing English isn't your first language?
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I suppose for your case I need an exception? In general it means when someone lets something be in a thread and goes off to other things it's quite a cheap shot to call them out on a "turned tail and ran" to promote your own bigoted ego. But thanks for backing my point with the reply once again
Peace.
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01-18-2009, 03:56 PM
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How am I bogoted exactly? Because I said I was guessing that the poor grammar displayed and nonsensical nonsense (How do my balls drop on me? Self-teabagging?) means that english is not your first language? Ok, but don't forget anti-semitic for my fire up the ovens comment as well.
No one is forcing you to hit reply so don't get all butt-hurt over what I've said. Especially when everything I've stated doesn't need me to express I'm wrong in some way. Just because you need to be corrected doesn't mean I do.
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01-18-2009, 04:10 PM
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How am I bogoted exactly? Because I said I was guessing that the poor grammar displayed and nonsensical nonsense (How do my balls drop on me? Self-teabagging?) means that english is not your first language? Ok, but don't forget anti-semitic for my fire up the ovens comment as well. 
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Poor grammar? Are you serious? There was no grammatical errors in it. I'm sorry if they give you a hard time over there as a canuck and your bias towards Americans kid, but you're failing to reach any ground for basis. I suppose it's hard for someone like you to understand how they belittle themselves with the way they react that results in them losing their "balls" to actually have the guts to say it up front instead of doing so when people move on seriously, learn to mature. You're only shooting yourself in the foot continuing to act like this.
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No one is forcing you to hit reply so don't get all butt-hurt over me.
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No one is forcing you to hit it either, so don't get all wound up over your self promoted pride to talk shit without getting heat back for it. Don't stop now, you got an image to keep representing to the mass who see it.
Peace
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01-18-2009, 06:55 PM
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#139 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Vlaze
No one is forcing you to hit it either, so don't get all wound up over your self-promoted pride to talk shit without getting heat back for it.
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Grammar error! I win the prize!
You guys ever going to hug it out?
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01-18-2009, 07:02 PM
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Grammar error! I win the prize!
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Shut it!!!
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