Snowolf

Israel has once again acted like the rouge state and bully of the middle east they have become thanks in part to our unquestioning enabling and placating to them. How they thank us is to illegally seize the humanitarian aid ship "Spirit of Humanity" while in international waters for the heinous crime of bringing toys, medicine and Olive trees to the Palestinian people in Gaza. Among the 21 people illegally kidnapped by IDF terrorists, is former U.S. Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney.

The constant bullshit from Israel has caused the United States far more grief than our allegiance is worth. How long does the world have to put up with them hiding behind their "oppressed people" status from the Holocaust and look the other way regarding their crap behavior?

Now, if North Korea had done this, our media would have actually taken a break from the 24/7 Michale Jackson tribute to cover this. The government would be holding emergency meetings and calling press conferences every time President Obama farted. But since it is Israel, well "that`s okay" we should`nt criticize Israel....

This "in your face" double standard we display to the world when it comes to Isreal is a huge reason behind the bitter anti American sentiment throughout the region. I am really sick and tired of their behavior and I am growing weary of the rich, influential Jews in this country pulling the puppet strings of our government.

Let that country fend for itself like every other country in the region. Without their 300 pound gorilla called America watching their back, they would have to learn to actually get along with their neighbors!

For a people who had horrific things done to them By Hitler and the Nazis, they sure seem quick to do those things to others who they deem as a "substandard" race IE: the Palestinians. Additionally, they seem overly sensitive to any person or group who calls them out on their bullshit.....

Cynthia McKinney reports from Isreali prison

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Mooz

Uhg I WISH someone would kidnap that obnoxious bitch. I'd like to be on that group's side but having that fat ignorant cum bag as a spokesdouche makes it really hard to take them seriously.

Now if they were to dump her in the middle of the ocean, I'd donate my next paycheck.

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MunkySpunk

The one lesson they took away from the Holocaust: "If someone says they are going to exterminate you, you believe him."

Israel is surrounded by countries with militaries or quietly supported paramilitaries that have flat out said they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, and are actively seeking nukes to do the job. Of course they're going to be a little on edge, you would be too. Israel is not the bad guy here - but neither is Palestine.

Not to excuse what Israel's doing, but if the Palestinians want aid to arrive they should stop smuggling weapons into Israel with humanitarian aid shipments and stop deploying said weapons to schools and hospitals for use against Israel, and recognize Israel's right to exist as an autonomous state.

If the Israelis want the Palestinians to stop launching these rockets, they should take the Arab countries up on the peace initiative deal instead of building new settlements just to show the Arabs they're not interested in pulling back, and recognize the Palestinians right to exist as an autonomous state.

If the UN wants it to stop, they should act like they actually want it to stop instead of relying on paper resolutions to stop rockets, willie-petes, bullets, suicide bombers, and other war crimes on BOTH sides. I should know, I've shot at paper targets before... they aren't very good at stopping bullets. The only thing the UN's been good at regarding this entire mess is showing both Israelis and Arabs that there will be no real repercussions to anything done in that region.

m60g

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"I am really sick and tired of their behavior and I am growing weary of the rich, influential Jews in this country pulling the puppet strings of our government."


Yeah, that's why your douchebag Obama is in office, cause the EVIL JEWS put him there


Have you ever been to Israel? If not, then you really have no idea what your talking about. You just see what ever the media wants you to see and hear.

I have been there, I trained with the IDF while in the Army. The reason they are so paranoid and that they do what ever they need to do, whether the rest of the world approves or not is because they are surrounded by people who want them DEAD.

They have NOOO Allies in that region. They must always be aggressive. They must always keep their boots on their enemies necks. I for one love the IDF, I hope they keep kicking those fuckers teeth in for another 1000 years.

It's not about the Palastine State. Even if the Palastinians got what they wanted, Israel would still be in danger. All those countries over there want the Jews Dead. Bottom Line. They have hated each other for 6000 years and I imagine they will go on hating each other.



But, then again, I'm not the best spokesperson for the Arabs. I tend to dislike all things Islam.


The IDF is alright anyway, they like kittins:



...but not Arabs

...one of my favorites:

Vlaze

Technically, in that area only around 1300-1400 years; but I'm sure they get the idea.

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Snowolf

Ummmm...you kind of took this a bit out of context here. Nowhere did I make reference to the idea that Jews are evil. What I said is that in this country there is a VERY POWERFUL Jewish lobby who puts enormous pressure on our congress when it comes to America`s policy toward Israel. This special interest pressure has skewed America`s foreign policy in the Middle East to create a huge imbalance in our relations in the region and is a major contributor to anti western terrorism.

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The Jewish lobby in America

The LRB

AIPAC


My "douche bag Obama" is in office because the American people woke up to the fact that Republican policies since Reagan have all but destroyed this country. Since you obviously have`nt noticed, President Obama is just as pro Israel as every President in modern time has been.....your hatred of him blinds you to the truth of what is real and what is fantasy...I suppose you probably drink the FOX Koolaid and STILL believe he is Muslim....


Way to go there, just assume that because I voice an opinion that differs from yours, I am some blind moron who gets their information from FOX or MSNBC. Way to have a conversation there buddy....

Hmmmm....you speak for ALL Jews do you??? Wow, that is interesting considering that millions of Jews both in and out of Israel are just as critical of the actions of the IDF and their government....I guess the Israelis who live there but don`t agree with you are stupid too....


For your information, one does not have to go to Israel to understand the politics of the region. Just because you were a grunt on the ground there gives you no better perspective of the intricacies of the geo politics of the region than anyone else. The ground pounding combat troop actually has far less of a global perspective of things than the civilian. I for one, don`t watch network television news and get my information through research online and through reading books on the subject. In addition, I have Jewish friends who frequently travel back to Israel to visit family and we spend hours talking about these things. I would surmise that I have a far better grasp of the situation than you do.

The fact of the matter is that the government of Israel continues to often be its own worst enemy. The actions they take often exacerbates situations. I fully understand their situation and fully agree they have a right to exist and defend themselves. I also see the truth of the matter that in many cases they go beyond this and act like a bully. They do this knowing that the United States has their back. My point is that in many cases, they make their situation far worse as a result of their belligerence. They also make it more difficult for America as a result.

Your xenophobic, anti Muslim hatred has blinded you to reality. It is not anti Semitic to criticize Israel when it is out of line. In fact, not doing so fuels anti western and anti Israel hatred in the region. Only by dealing fairly with everyone in the region will any progress be made. You rant and spew your hatred for anything Muslim and that blinds you to the realities of history. In 1947-48 when Israel became a state, it displaced hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who had lived on the land for generations. How would YOU feel if some foreign government came in and kicked you off the land your family had owned for generations, bulldozed the home you and your grandparents were born in and left you homeless and jobless in an alien land? learn to put yourself in other`s shoes instead of just regurgitating the military induced chest pounding you got pounded in your head from basic training.

Israel`s actions in Gaza and the West Bank further fuel the deep seated hatred and mistrust and your attitude, like so many in the west, is blind to the concept that wrongs have been done and these wrongs need to be addressed. Everyone cries about Israel`s right to exist but only lip service is paid to the Palestinian people`s needs. Oh and by the way, just like in Israel, there are many religions represented by the Palestinian people; they are not all "evil Muslims" what of their rights? What of the Christian Palestinians who had their land stolen without compensation?

Bottom line is, a real two state solution must be realized and Israel needs to honor that and stop using the terrorist tactics they frequently use when it comes to the way they deal with Palestinians. Yes they have a right to self defense but they go way beyond that many times and this hurts the peace process just as much as when the Palestinians lob rockets into the West Bank. You cannot have lasting peace when you don`t deal equally with both sides.

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Snowolf

Oh Really?????

Let`s take Iran as an example.....

Ayatollah declares "Jews to be protected"

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It seems to me that you are the one who blindly gets their information from the media or from the upper echelons of the U.S. Military......

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Snowolf

Pretty much bang on....not much I can disagree with here....takes two brats to tango...

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SpringheelJack

You're using the reports from Free Gaza?

Was Stormfront's report not up in time?

Vlaze

Not to get in an argument. Just stating how many use this key era to highlight a misconception that Israel took over "Palestinian" land. Again, there never was such a state or country. Palestine isn't even an entity but used for political purposes and was original initiated by the Romans in attempts to wipe Israel off the map of existence around the 100AD time; this is where the name derived from. They referred to that particular area of land as Palestine, more like a boundary of what the Roman's described it. Arabs have been using this strongly politically for the past 60-70 years now.

Before 700AD with the whole Islam movement, it was and always has been Israel's land from the time before hand. Christians do and did exist the so called "Palestine" area as well as Arabs. However to remain distinct from the Roman's attempt to classify what was their land of original Kingdom they won't refer to it as Palestine thus the creation of Israel.

The whole reason for co-existence within Iran is because it's not deemed the "holy" land and thus they don't have much bickering. It always has been and will be a battle over the land surrounding particularly those holy areas, especially Jerusalem that is within Israel's boundaries.

Carry on.

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