MunkySpunk

Only because creationists insist it is closely linked. It's circular logic.

Science does not view it as linked at all, and we are talking science class here.

The extent to which it 'challenges' evolution is a poor standard to judge relevance. Pastafarianism challenges evolution as well, and by your standards we should thus include it in science classes.

I can make my own view on origins by this afternoon and have it challenge evolution on all levels. Would you thus suggest it be included in science classes?

Creationism is not science and has no place in science class. It is also relevant to only a narrow spectrum of religions, and therefore has no place in a secular education without being accompanied by the creation myths of ALL religions.

Snowolf

Ah, very valid points and I see your logic here.

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ATOTony76

I believe in small scale evolution, the need to change based upon your environment. I do think the big bang theory is a big key in evolution. For some reason you get something from nothing. This is the same for evolution. All of a sudden, we went from no life, to life. How? Who knows. Even scientist cannot recreate this. Now, lets get this strait, life began in the ocean, then all of a sudden, went to land..... ?

Give this guy a listen. 100 reason why evolution is stupid

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snowjeeper

That guy's a real gem: Kent Hovind - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Since November 2006 Hovind is serving a ten-year prison sentence in the Federal Correctional Institution, Edgefield in Edgefield, South Carolina, after being convicted of 58 federal counts, including twelve tax offenses, one count of obstructing federal agents and forty-five counts of structuring cash transactions."

You expect us to even listen to some dipshit who thinks the earth is only 6000 years old? give me a break dude. It's sad that you find these people to have even remotely valid points of view. I fear for the future of our country.

snowjeeper

he's also not a real Dr:
"In 1971 he graduated from East Peoria Community High School in East Peoria, Illinois. From 1972 until 1974 Hovind attended the non-accredited Midwestern Baptist College and received a Bachelor of Religious Education (B.R.E.).[3] In 1988 and 1991 respectively, Hovind was awarded a master's degree and doctorate in Christian Education through correspondence from the non-accredited Patriot University in Colorado Springs, Colorado (now Patriot Bible University in Del Norte, Colorado which no longer offers this program).[7]"


Well hell I'll call myself a Dr too then. Dr Snowjeeper says give me all your money, and jesus will give you rimjobs in heaven.

snowjeeper

This is real classy too: In 1996 Hovind unsuccessfully filed for bankruptcy to avoid paying federal income taxes claiming he wasn't a citizen of the US and did not earn income.

Sounds like you got a snake oil salesman here.

MunkySpunk

Cosmology and evolution are two different subject areas. You missed the bus on this one.Membrane theory. Just because you don't understand the math doesn't make it invalid. Hell, you have trouble spelling two syllable words correctly.Arrangement of self-replicating non-chiral organic acids into a lipid monolayer on a clay substrate.Self-replicating nucleic acids have been made, driven and optimized by in vitro evolution.To fill an ecological niche. There were resources on land and no life to take advantage of them. Might as well go get them.Oh, you mean "Dr." Quack? Yeah, I've heard of him, he's a good comedian. Citing him as a credible source does you no credit.

tomtom88

It did not happen "all of the sudden," Evolution is not "all of the sudden." It's not like a fish just decided to go for a walk on it's fins. Sorry but Evolution doesn't work that way.

It is a lengthy and prolonged process that stimulates physical change in one's young. It's like teaching your kids about your experiences but through your DNA. You aren't actually teaching them a lesson, it is more or less passed on to them inherently.

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RidePowder

Creationism cant be taught in school, because in order to teach creationism it must be assumed that there is an all powerful entity that created everything.

anyways. arguing on the subject is pointless because this is one of those instances where people argue to prove themselves right, and not to intelligently deliberate and accept truths from either side..


Best story ever though... Scientists were given bones from several different species of dinosaur without knowing it. Several new species came into existence following their research

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snowjeeper

that's because they only work with fragments, and the knowledge that the bones all came from the same area, it's rare that they find whole dinosaurs. so "tricking" them wouldn't be that difficult, but is still dishonest.


Best story ever though: millions of people believe that a book tells the truth... because a bunch of other people told them it does. best evidence evar.