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Old 10-06-2009, 10:52 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Best story ever though... Scientists were given bones from several different species of dinosaur without knowing it. Several new species came into existence following their research
t may be the best story ever, but that was the worst storytelling ever. You lost me. Be a LOT less ambiguous. Did walking breathing species just spontaneously materialize because scientists studied bones? Who gave them these bones? What were they told when they were given these bones?

The hallmark of science is its dis-provability. It claims only to be the pursuit of truth. If a scientific theory is wrong, observable data can disprove it, and we know just that much more about the universe in which we live.

Not so for creationism. It doesn't lend itself to testing and disproving. You can't prove it is incorrect (or correct for that matter) no matter what sort of data you collect because it is neither scientific nor a theory.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:08 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Speaking of something from nothing and credible sources: Evolution versus Creationism
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:09 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Evolution is a fact. It happens all the time within species and can be easily seen. The problem comes when people try to teach that humans evolved from primates. This is just theory and does not begin to explain creation.

The problem with creation is that we can not comprehend infinity. If you take a scientific approach and believe the big bang theory you still have to explain how the ball of mass was created. If you take a religious view and say that God created the universe, then you have to explain where God came from. It is an argument that can't be won on either side. At the very least the religious side has faith to comfort them in their theory of creation. The scientific community is left with a never ending set of questions.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:12 AM   #24 (permalink)
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The problem comes when people try to teach that humans evolved from primates. This is just theory and does not begin to explain creation.
It isn't trying to explain creation, Darwin. It's trying to explain from whence we evolved. I could say creationism doesn't begin to explain why I burned my bagel in the toaster this morning with just as much validity.

EDIT: Evolutionists have made predictions about the differences between our DNA and a Chimp's DNA. Molecular Biology and Genomics have yielded data consistent with the predictions. In cases that it isn't consistent, scientists shrug and go back to the drawing board. THAT is science.
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At the very least the religious side has faith to comfort them in their theory of creation.
Delude.. comfort. Same thing. Either way, it's a cop-out.
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The scientific community is left with a never ending set of questions.
That's the basis for science.

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Cosmology and evolution are two different subject areas. You missed the bus on this one.Membrane theory. Just because you don't understand the math doesn't make it invalid. Hell, you have trouble spelling two syllable words correctly.Arrangement of self-replicating non-chiral organic acids into a lipid monolayer on a clay substrate.Self-replicating nucleic acids have been made, driven and optimized by in vitro evolution.To fill an ecological niche. There were resources on land and no life to take advantage of them. Might as well go get them.Oh, you mean "Dr." Quack? Yeah, I've heard of him, he's a good comedian. Citing him as a credible source does you no credit.
despite what his background is, and what he does with his own life. I think he brings up some valid points. Suddenly everyone just became specialist evolution. Self-replicating nucleic acids have been made, in a LAB.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:24 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Self-replicating nucleic acids have been made, in a LAB.
What would you like them to do? Make it happen on an NIH funded extra-solar planet?

I've got a better idea, recreate creationism for me. Prove it's correct. You claim it's a theory, so you should be able to support it with observable data.
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He doesn't bring up valid points, because he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:37 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Evolution isn't something that just happened suddenly. It took millions of years for this to take place. But at what time did the sea creature or fish decide that land is the way to go? After how many years of the fish floping on the shore did it decide "I should grow some legs"

It seems like this world is just to complicated for it just to happen naturally. Now I don't agree with this guy saying that earth was created sometime around 6000bc, but he does bring some valid points that scientist have still yet to answer, or simply cannot produce one.
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He doesn't bring up valid points, because he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
Like what?
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:48 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Evolution isn't something that just happened suddenly. It took millions of years for this to take place.
No shit.
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But at what time did the sea creature or fish decide that land is the way to go? After how many years of the fish floping on the shore did it decide "I should grow some legs"
You're the only one saying the fish decided. Is this the theory of Tonyism?

The fish didn't decide. Evolution states natural selection decided. Kind of like how your inbred republican base ultra-conservative family tree looks like a telephone pole - it's at an evolutionary disadvantage because it's missing chromosomes and has some serious genetic damage. Will your family decide to die out? Unfortunately probably not. However, it will eventually go the way of the dinosaurs because natural selection decided for you.

If you're going to discount evolution, at least have the courtesy to know what the hell evolution is.
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but he does bring some valid points that scientist have still yet to answer, or simply cannot produce one.
Just like creationists can't prove that their god made the universe, or even exists in the first place. Pots and kettles.

At least science acknowledges there are always more questions to be answered instead of self-delusion.
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