PaoloSmythe

the concepts of intelligent design and creationism and how they were allowed to infiltrate lectures regarding science, to me illustrated the desperation and dishonesty religious sects were willing to exploit in this age of information sharing and ever deepening education.

it is sinister to say the least, to portray as science, cherry picked items of faith and to present them as fact.

science exists as a self critical examination of what we think we know. religion exists as a doctrine telling us what we ought to know (under threat of eternal damnation).

by their very natures, they are diametrically opposed and any truly enlightened society would never try to promote one as being the other.

such is the state of the church today!

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lol paolo, here we go!

TODDM PLEASE REPORT TO THE RELIGION THREAD, TODDM TO THE RELIGION THREAD!

sorry, just reminds me of the good ole days of sb.com

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Suburban Blend

Ice T once said, "For those who feel that they are truly elite
The last thing you see's a priest
The lights dim-your life ends
Drama"

So if you do not have faith this will happen. It will be over for you and all will be dark. I don't believe that Satan will poke you in the balls with a pitchfork forever. You'll just be in darkness forever. So you will cease to grow and prosper.

I choose to believe and I always look for the light in everything here on earth and in Heaven. When I die I'll be going into the light. That is where my spirit will continue to grow.

Just my take on life....

N~R~G

i got a tattoo some years ago that reflects my belief that we are all one. religion (in it's many different forms), in my view, is made by man, as a way to understand what we don't understand; but above (or below) it all, it's just a word, spoken many different ways, coveying the same thing...to love one another.

in my belief, we are all just energy. and god is energy. what fucks up this beautiful thought is our minds. our minds play tricky games & have led us astray from the basic truth of what is.

so back to my story about my tattoo. i created this tattoo to symbolize that we are all one. it was an idea (the tattoo) that i had been thinking of doing for a minute & then i saw a bulletin from a girl on my myspace from california that was traveling around the country & paying the way by her husband giving tattoos. so i was like, perfect! and asked when she'd be coming through my area. turned out she was practically in my backyard at the time! so we set up a time for me to come over & get this tattoo done.

so i go over & present my idea. i could tell the guy wasn't too hip on it. i thought it was because it was a very basic, black tattoo. turns out its because he's a born-again (converted from satanism) and he thinks my idea is full of shit. so while he's tattooing me, sitting maybe a foot from me, he's telling me i'm being deceived by the devil...that only jesus christ is our savoir & any belief other than that is the devil's work. that the devil takes these other "forms" or beliefs to lead people astray from the truth.








i call his bullshit.






if JC was the only true savoir, how come he came so late in existance? how come there are earlier beliefs that seem a lot more right on than chrisitanity?




i break it down like this...

religion is man made.
god is energy.
energy is the basic form of all that is.
therefore, we are all god.

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i was just reading through this thread, and i realized something that i thought was kinda funny. i go to a private catholic college, but i don't know a single person there that would even say that they're christian. except for the teachers.


damn nrg, i would have been worried he was gonna screw up the tattoo on purpose.

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N~R~G

well he blessed me with some bad juju...which is pretty much the same as f'n up the tattoo. he told me it'd mean something completely different to me years from now (like the mark of the beast or something) and then the last thing he did was give me his bible.

we were in his pull-behind trailor doing the tattoo. i don't know if it was the energy of the tattoo or the talk we had, but when i stepped out of that trailor i felt very high & everything seemed very colorful. i was stunned, to say the least. it was a reeeeally powerful moment. i took the bible & drove down to the river by where we were & sat there & said "show me what i'm meant to see" and opened to a random page in the bible. i can't remember exactly what it said, but it (of course) hit home.

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Mooz

A good read for this thread. Kinda long. It's Age of Reason by Thomas Paine. He wrote it and was jailed for it and if not for an abscent minded jailer, he would have been put to death for it.

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Snowolf

Hahaha I had forgotten about Toddm...those were some pretty interesting threads!

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im wondering if anyones seen "what the bleep"
its a documentary type of movie about science and touches a lot on god.
its one of those movies that can change a persons life.
goes into positive thinkin and multiple realities. interestin as hell.
i watched 3 times. its a good one to rent.

Suburban Blend

Man O' Man that's a good find. I could spend a lot of time on the dudes clips:
YouTube - What tHe BLeeP Do wE (k)now? Part 1 "Introduction"