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**Snowolf** · 06-30-2008, 10:23 AM

The history of the pledge is interesting. It was the Knights of Columbus who were responsibile for the addition of "under God" in 1951. Up until that, it was`nt in there.

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NickNorth11 · 07-03-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowolf

The history of the pledge is interesting. It was the Knights of Columbus who were responsibile for the addition of "under God" in 1951. Up until that, it was`nt in there.

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Wow. Very interesting.

PaoloSmythe · 07-04-2008, 07:07 AM

here is something else i have read about recently which is equally as interesting.....

With regard to the suggestion that religion is 'useful', as it gives us a basis for good moral values and thus governance…

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while political party affiliation in the US is not a perfect indicator of religiosity, it is no secret that the 'red states' are primarily red due to the overwhelming political influence of conservative christians. If there were a strong correlation between christian conservatism and societal health, we might see some sign of it in red-state america. We don't.

Of the 25 cities with the lowest rates of violent crime, 62% are in 'blue states' and 38% are in red.
Of the 25 most dangerous cities, 76% are in red states and 24% are in blue.
In fact, three of the five most dangerous cities in the US are in the pious state of texas.
The 12 states with the highest rate of burglary are red.
24 of the 29 states with the highest rates of theft are red.
Of the 22 states with the highest rates of murder 17 are red.

It has been noted that despite theologists and creationists alike, joining to condemn and dismiss the findings of darwinists, evolutionists and other scientists as being irrelevent to considerations of the universe and 'god'; they never the less try to use scientific methods to undermine the claims made above in the quotation. Vast amounts of money and time are spent to find a relationship between peaceful and high moral standards with a preponderance of religious belief.

So far no report of such a relationship has been published.

'nuff said.

Religion is a bag of absolute bollocks.

Incidentally if you wish to learn more, the quote is from 'Letter to a christian nation' by Sam Harris.

**Snowolf** · 07-04-2008, 09:09 AM

Red states also by nature of religious influence, shun secular sex education in favor of so called abstinance only programs. The results are telling when comparing red states to blue states:
Teen pregnancy rates per 1,000.

When Red States get their social problems under control, and things such as teen pregnancy down to nationwide lows, then they can try and foist their solutions on the rest of the country.

But as things currently stand, on this issue (as well as others like divorce), the Red States have no ground to stand on. Those crazy New England liberals are running circles around them in this tangible measure of their residents' "values".

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arctic valley · 07-23-2008, 04:53 PM

lol @ this threads progression.
its very satisfying, thank you.

marthaofca · 07-29-2008, 04:31 PM

I'm proud to be a Roman Catholic..

cifex · 07-29-2008, 06:32 PM

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I'm proud to be a Roman Catholic..

My mother was a Catholic. She is proud not to be one.

I've heard so many stories about the evil nuns, locking children in the closet and telling kids if they didn't do their homework they would be put in a sack and taken to the home for bad boys and girls.

PaoloSmythe · 07-30-2008, 06:12 AM

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I'm proud to be a Roman Catholic..

i see absolutely nothing to be proud of, from the faith of catholicism. and so i would be sincerely grateful if you were to explain to me, how you derive such a sense of security.

incidentally, isn't pride a cardinal sins?

cifex · 07-30-2008, 09:02 AM

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incidentally, isn't pride a cardinal sins?

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PaoloSmythe · 07-30-2008, 09:14 AM

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oh it gets better; from the font of all wisdom, wikipedia, comes:

In almost every list pride is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, and indeed the ultimate source from which the others arise.

It is identified as a desire to be more important or attractive than others, failing to give compliments to others though they may be deserving of them, and excessive love of self.

Dante's definition was "love of self perverted to hatred and contempt for one's neighbor."

In perhaps the best-known example, the story of Lucifer, pride (his desire to compete with God) was what caused his fall from Heaven, and his resultant transformation into Satan.