PaoloSmythe

wimmin don't want a marriage;

they want a WEDDING

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Simply^Ride

^^^^ sorry my bad, I meant wedding.

Perpetual3am

My sentiments are the same as Paolo, why would I care? I do think churches have a right to refuse doing the service, they're entitled to their beliefs so long as there is always another avenue to get married, i.e. at the courthouse.

I would bet that the reasons people would have to prevent gay marriage are based on irrationality, ignorance and fear...religion will do that to you.

PaoloSmythe

'sorry'?

nowt to apologise for spidey; i was trying to condense what you had said, into a one liner i had once heard (and often repeated)!

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Many cultures are so ignorant about the issue, take for example people from central America. All their life they are told that homosexuality is a sin and as a matter of fact they are very cruel to gay people, in many cases they assault pretty bad. As they move out of central America into the US, they encounter such an open community, they go crazy and the only thing that crosses their mind is gay sex. In my opinion they are all gay, they are just afraid of it.

I work in a Italian restaurant and most of the kitchen staff is from El Salvador, the wait staff is largely composed by gay guys. You should see how gay sex crazy the guys in the kitchen are, but as soon as see someone they know looking at them they turn into this fake macho men guys.

The sad part is that they are all gay, but yet they are married and have like 4 kids.

Living in Ft.Lauderdale you are screwed if you hate gay people.

kri$han

Personally, I think if T.J. and Mooz wanna get married, then who am I to stand in their way?

and from what I saw at the West Coast meet, they seem to be madly in love , so go for it gays!...i mean, guys!

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sedition

"marriage" v. "civil unions" is the "separate but equal" conflict of modern America.

The really fucked up part about the whole thing is the lack of federal rights people have b/c nothing is really recognized at the federal level. A really good example was the gay congressman (Gary Studds?) was denied federal pension payments when his "husband" died in the 9/11 attacks. If that isn't fucked up, I don't know what is. Another example is the hospital vistations someone else menioned (although that can be state level, too).

The one fucked thing that I've had to deal with is immigration, marriage, and the relationship between the two. My boyfriend is not a US citizen. He was born in Sweden and was on the Swedish Jr. Olympic swim team (zillion good gay jokes right there!). He was later recruited for the swim team at Brown Univeristy and came over the US. He now been in the US over 10 years, and has his Green Card. We have been together for like 7-years. The fucked-up part is that if we were a normal hetero couple, we could date for like 3 months, get married, and he would then be a legal US citizen. No such luck. Instead he has to go through the whole administrative process of becoming a citizen which takes years.

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Simply^Ride

I believe the gay population is making slow movements for a better life, but it's going to take a lot of time to get to were they work just how a hetereo family are. The part about the hospital visitations I am not sure how it works, but maybe if you get married in another state could they aprove that in any state to let your partner in to the hospital??

The rights are pretty crew up for gay people, some states like Florida and California might be a little be better, but they are still not how they should be. I believe the US is in the middle of the equation, just be great full that the US is not like Iran and Russia, were they are know to be case of capital punishment for being homosexual. I agree with you sedition, but I also believe it's a process that takes time and patience.

Just on the funny note, don't take this offensive. Did you ever see the episode of south park when they are trying to legalize gay marriage and the mayor suggests the name of a gay marriage to be "butt buddies" that episode was funny as fuck.

sparty

As a great man Ron White once said "We're all gay, man. It's just to what extent are you gay."

All jokes aside, I'm for gay marriage and voted against the ban of gay marriage when it was on the ballot in Ohio. Who am I to tell other people how to live their lives?

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mpdsnowman

I never saw a problem with it myself. If two people want to consumate a life together with a ceremony to officially mark the occasion to me that is fine.

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