PaoloSmythe

i don't think it will be legalised anytime soon. to do so, would cause conflict between government and religion and both are too inter-twined and co-dependent on the other for its own survival, for such friction to be tolerated.

maybe decriminalised, afterall most law makers would perceive prison to becoming a gay orgy if it were crammed with gender benders!

besides.... everybody knows homos are gay thru choice! this is usually due to a desire to rebel against what is right, proper and authorised. if it became legal, no one would bother! and where's the fun in that?

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And don't forget the republican's who keep getting caught hooking up in public bathrooms, and the fundamentalist preists who like to go on meth benders with male whores. Good times, that GOP.

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NickNorth11

I guess I agree with most here that gay people should be granted the benefits to state/federal unions, but marriages have always been a religious event, and so each religious institution should have the right to allow or not allow gay marriages.
Clinton and Obama are pushing Christianity pretty hard to gain the right-leaning independents, so I doubt they'll be strong proponents of gay marriage.

sedition

Well, looks the CA Supreme Court is down with this thread...

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Snowolf

Sadly, true words!

Fortunately, we are not so in the dark ages that this occurs now.

I am thinking you are being cheeky here... Sadly however, some of our less enlightend people we happen to share this rock we call Earth with do actually believe this nonsense. The more enlightened and educated people are aware that it is becoming a very well accepted belief and nearly a provable fact by science that sexual orientation is har wired into the person at birth. Sure there is a segment of the gay population that made a choice one way or the other or were influenced by environmental factors. But for the majority of the gay population they were in fact "born that way" As soon as they reached an age where they began to have sexual attraction, it was always for the same sex. This to me is way homosexuality is just as "normal" as heterosexuality. This is a natural part of the human condition and homosexuality is no more "abnormal" than having either dark or white skin. It is once again, the cancer of religion in this world that has made it appear so.

The Civil Rights struggle that our gay community is having to fight in these times, is not unlike the struggles that blacks had to go through in the 1960`s. This is not to say that blacks in America did not suffer far more inhumane treatment as gays never had to endure slavery and the same degree of hostility. Having said that, gay bashing and and physical asaults are akin to that treatment. All of this is an ugly stain on America and I look forward to a day when none of these differences matter. I think with each generation of young people, we are becoming more enlightened. As proof of this progress, all one needs to do is look back to 1978. Before that time the LDS church openly discriminated against blacks. In an amazing coincidence, at the very time the U.S. government was taking a hard look at the Mormon practices of racism, the church had a revelation from God that Blacks were in fact people after all...amazing aint it? Many of the world`s major Christian faiths are now struggling with the issue of "allowing" gays to be in the clergy. I tend to laugh at their hand wringing of this issue. Who the hell are these people to deny anyone to follow "the calling of the Lord" as they like to put it. As we evolve, so does religion; we no longer believe in magic or witches, and so the church no longer burns witches at the stake. All of this is further proof to me that all religion is an invention of man.

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Holy Crap CA legalized Gay Marriage

Gay marriage legal in California
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by Matthew Hay Brown

With a ruling today by its highest court, California has rejoined Massachusetts as the only states to allow same-sex marriage.

"Our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," the California Supreme Court ruled in a 4-3 opinion that overturned a voter-approved ban on gay marriage.

Six of the seven members of the court are Republicans. Outside the courthouse, gay marriage supporters cried and cheered as news spread of the decision, the Associated Press reports.

Two dozen same-sex couples joined rights groups and the City of San Francisco in a lawsuit four years ago after the court halted weddings performed in San Francisco.

"Today the California Supreme Court took a giant leap to ensure that everybody -- not just in the state of California, but throughout the country -- will have equal treatment under the law," City Attorney Dennis Herrera, who argued the case for San Francisco, told the AP.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said he respected and would uphold the ruling.

"Also, as I have said in the past, I will not support an amendment to the constitution that would overturn this state Supreme Court ruling," he said.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a San Francisco Democrat, welcomed what she called a "historic" ruling.

"I encourage California citizens to respect the Court's decision, and I continue to strongly oppose any ballot measure that would write discrimination into the State Constitution," she said. "Today is a significant milestone for which all Californians can take pride."

Simply^Ride

I believe it's not fully legal yet,

who knows how long it will take to legalize it, with all the bureaucratic crap in the way.

sedition

Gays can now marry in CA.

*yawn*

I really hate when the goal of "liberation" becomes assimilation. We need real social change, for everyone.

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I hear what you are saying but, remember an avalanche starts with one snowflake...

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Gustov

this thread reminds me of an article i read a while ago. some political leader, or something like that, in the middle east was asked about gay rights i think, and his response was that they hadn't experienced the "phenomenon" of homosexuality in their country yet. what a dumbass.

it also mad me think of a video i saw of some guy running for senate or something, and in a publc speech he said something like: well, i grew up in the south, and it is to my understanding that black people have trouble swimming... funny stuff, i bet he didn't he elected.

anyone know of what i'm talking about? my details are pretty vague and hazy.

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