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Old 04-22-2009, 11:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Now if they'd only grow a pair and actually go after this kind of shit everywhere.

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It is promising, but I'm not holding my breath until I see someone in the Bush admin. brought up on charges. Dick Cheney is probably sacrificing children to the devil as we speak to prevent this from happening.
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I think, as a nation, we are strong enough to withstand the prosecution when necessary -- under U.S. law -- of our own elected officials and political appointees for political decisions they made while in office...but I'm not ready to cede jurisdiction over such political decision making to any other country or collection of countries. To do so would, imo, seriously undermine national soveriegnty. As far as potential war crimes go, any country that signs on to any international law addressing war crimes for political leaders should first have similar domestic laws applicable to its own leaders and the stones to enforce them.
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Nah Obama just cleverly opened the door to prosecution WHILE protecting the very people you want prosecuted. Cheny and Bush have nothing to fear. Their lawyers on the other hand may be in hot water.

Those "interrogation techniques" were sent before a team of legal heads to determine their legality. I can't find the article atm but basically a legally binding determination was made (by a court) that they did not fall under the realm of torture and were thus legal under various circumstances. Right or wrong, this absolves the administration of legal wrong doing. They did what they believed to be legal.

However, those who made the legal decision are very open to prosecution.
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The admin folks are safe, that's a sad fact. But it's far more important for the U.S. legal system to hold our own people accountable. I'd accept the Euros as a stopgap measure, but after some of the shit they've also turned a blind eye to, they're not in much of a position to be pointing fingers either.
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Why does everybody pick on the lawyers?
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Because lawyers pick on everybody.
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Lawyers don't pick on everybody...their clients do. Lawyers just level the playing field...if you have gobs of greenstuff!
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It's the lawyers who bend that law which they want to break. Good reason why a lot of them become future politians.

What's funny about them being put on trail, is that if they serve their clients, shouldn't their clients also, if not more so, be put on trial? That would be the Bush, Cheney, and Rice clan. Since that will happen the day after the sun destroys the earth, it's hypocritical to go after the middle men. I think people remember Nixon was found guilty on all charges and resigned. But before he could become a crook, he was pardoned.

The Bush fiasco of the last 8 years will probably take 16 years to fix. That goes for all the problems from allowing guns in national parks to denying global warming exists. If anyone should be held by the indepedant investigators as responsible for the global problems including allowing torture under the Patriot Act or Homeland Security, it should be the chimp that ran this country into the ground.


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What's funny about them being put on trail, is that if they serve their clients, shouldn't their clients also, if not more so, be put on trial?
Not if the clients believed they were acting within the law and had no reason to believe otherwise. And I think you all are expecting a bit much from the "prosecution" of the bush admin lawyers. The most they have to worry about is being disbarred.

You should be more concerned about how our lawmakers knew about the whole thing including waterboarding and only now pretend they were against it because public opinion says they should be.

Pelosi: I didn't know it was going on
News: Um, yes you did
Pelosi: No no, they told me but it was secret and we weren't allowed to talk about it so that means I didn't know.
News: Wat?
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