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Old 06-23-2009, 02:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If I really put effort into it, I'm sure I could find a relationship between a child with malaria in Africa and the Titanic sinking. If you get enough factual dots, your bound to make any picture you want.

Read some sources that the first Zeitgeist had. Some of them can be found at scribd.com.

I strongly dislike the series, and I strongly dislike how mainstream it has become.

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Old 06-24-2009, 01:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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you feel offended as a christian because the movie esposes the fact that all religions actually worshipped the sun? It's a fact...it's obvious that religion is a legacy of ancient mithologies, and very similar from country to country. Same story, different faces.
I agree that Venus project is an utopia...it's just an attempt to a different society, but what the World Bank does is under everyone's eyes, no theory there.
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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you feel offended as a christian because the movie esposes the fact that all religions actually worshipped the sun? It's a fact...it's obvious that religion is a legacy of ancient mithologies, and very similar from country to country. Same story, different faces.
I'm very much opposed to any religion in general, so the generalization about being a christian is unwarranted and irrelevant. As I said in my earlier post; the facts are in the movie, but the movie uses facts to twist into it's own idea (which isn't original, just a retake on anti-semitism). Also some of the sources [CS Books] in the movie have been heavily scrutinized for not having sources for their own information.

Look at where the sources take you and how you can judge the idea. How can you diprove or prove that the Rockefeller's, Rothchild's, or federal reserve aren't plotting the idea proposed in the first movie? If you can't do this without any irrefutable evidence, then it is in the same ballpark as questioning the existence of god.

I also made it a rule to myself that if any idea becomes a popular topic on Art Bell/George Norey (Coast to Coast), it's best to let it die.


As a final note: I barely skimmed through the venus project stuff. Technology as a primary result of a society or something. Do you realize how many scientists there are that sensationalize what their studying in order to get more grants?
 
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I don't think I'll ever find a better explanation about religious myths than the one in the movie, that all started with the sun, then they egyptians and so on, repeating basically the same story.
DO I find believable that very powerful and rich dinastyes had and tried to mantain power with any means? Of course I do!
DO I believe everything the movie says? No...but A lot of it makes good sense to me.
I don't think there's one irrefutable truth..but a direction to it...we live in a complex world, but human behavior is still predictable.
My hope, posting, was to expose the movie and what it says...not convince anybody...
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I don't think I'll ever find a better explanation about religious myths than the one in the movie, that all started with the sun, then they egyptians and so on, repeating basically the same story.
DO I find believable that very powerful and rich dinastyes had and tried to mantain power with any means? Of course I do!
DO I believe everything the movie says? No...but A lot of it makes good sense to me.
I don't think there's one irrefutable truth..but a direction to it...we live in a complex world, but human behavior is still predictable.
My hope, posting, was to expose the movie and what it says...not convince anybody...
original christianity (and im talking the friggin beginning here) is absolutly no where close to where it is now, all the little sun things your talking about were added so that pagans had an easier time to convert over to christianity because they made the holidays at practically the same time in the year. before they had holidays, it was just plain worshipping Jesus and his morales, but it became twisted in attempts to drag pagans in. so original christianity had absolutly nothing to do with the sun, but the one we know today does because of its pagan backgrounds.

thought i'd clear that up, true christianity is believing in God, Jesus, and the morals he taught, which as we know is not the case in present day.
 
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Just because a guy can make movies, doesn't mean he's an expert in theology, history, sociology, and anthropology.
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I wish someone who supports Pawlo would speak up on this topic, because it feels like we all just sort of ganged up on him. Also, I can see a fun argument coming from this thread.

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The Sarah Palin`s of the world still believe in the 6,000 year crap and that man hung out with dinosaurs....
wait, so the flinstones wasnt real???!?11!
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The Sarah Palin`s of the world still believe in the 6,000 year crap and that man hung out with dinosaurs....
I think I was 6 or 7 when I wrote off religion especially the bible as fiction. I remember asking my bible thumping fanatic of a mother why the dinosaurs weren't in the bible and how they were able to exist millions of years ago if "God" created the universe just 6,000 years ago. I don't remember what the answer was but it was enough to make me say "yeah that's a load of crap".

I was like 6. There are grown ass adults who have yet to make this revelation. Religion is a dangerous in the hands of fools.
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