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Old 11-05-2009, 10:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well the point being CO2 is a gas that has been in existance since the beginning of time and the current contribution of man is a minimal minimal effect on the earth as a whole.

If you burn 10 tires thats more harm to the situation than you, your parents and your grandparents lifes combined of excreting co2 with every exhale....

Its a false pretense really.
If man's breathing was his only contribution, you would be correct. Fossil fuel combustion. We have China just coming on line with prosperity and they are dumping vehicles on the road like crazy. Not hating on China. It's just a massive population. If we don't manage it while it's still manageable, we'll lose.

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Old 11-05-2009, 10:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Well the point being CO2 is a gas that has been in existance since the beginning of time and the current contribution of man is a minimal minimal effect on the earth as a whole.

If you burn 10 tires thats more harm to the situation than you, your parents and your grandparents lifes combined of excreting co2 with every exhale....
What makes you think exhaling CO2 is the only way it gets pumped into the air? What makes you think you haven't put 10 tires worth of CO2 into the air by simply living your life the way you do this year alone?

And the CO2 you put into the air when you drive to work? The CO2 produced from making your Big Mac for lunch? The CO2 produced to deliver your snowboard to the shop where you bought it? The CO2 produced to deliver the materials to the snowboard factory so it can be made? The CO2 produced by burning coal to power the plant that made your car, snowboard, and Big Mac? The CO2 put out by the equipment digging up the coal and transporting it to the power plant so it can be burned to make your car, snowboard, and Big Mac? The CO2 produced to haul your old snowboard, old car, and old snowboard away in the trash? The CO2 produced to power the crusher for your car, the CO2 produced to build the landfill that your Big Mac wrapper is going into?

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Its a false pretense really.
The CO2 that you breathe out is minuscule compared to the CO2 produced to keep you in your comfortable lifestyle today. Just because you don't understand does not make it false.
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What makes you think exhaling CO2 is the only way it gets pumped into the air? What makes you think you haven't put 10 tires worth of CO2 into the air by simply living your life the way you do this year alone?

And the CO2 you put into the air when you drive to work? The CO2 produced from making your Big Mac for lunch? The CO2 produced to deliver your snowboard to the shop where you bought it? The CO2 produced to deliver the materials to the snowboard factory so it can be made? The CO2 produced by burning coal to power the plant that made your car, snowboard, and Big Mac? The CO2 put out by the equipment digging up the coal and transporting it to the power plant so it can be burned to make your car, snowboard, and Big Mac? The CO2 produced to haul your old snowboard, old car, and old snowboard away in the trash? The CO2 produced to power the crusher for your car, the CO2 produced to build the landfill that your Big Mac wrapper is going into?

The CO2 that you breathe out is minuscule compared to the CO2 produced to keep you in your comfortable lifestyle today. Just because you don't understand does not make it false.
I read this as its dumping close to a foot of snow near my house. They will say its climate change. I think not.

Its funny to think the big thing in the 70s and 80s was the threat of an ice age. Now global warming. What next.
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I read this as its dumping close to a foot of snow near my house. They will say its climate change. I think not.
Actually, they will say it's snowing near your house.

After your last self-contradictory (albeit, unintentionally fucking hilarious) rant on climate change, I'm just going to hand you an e-cookie, pat you on the head, and move on to worthwhile posts. Because you just. don't. get. it.

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So you are saying that Obama is now working on getting some nuclear power plants up and running? It is easy to blame Bush, but I don't remember Clinton/Gore doing anything either. You can't always blame Bush for everything.
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Again its simple, does man have an impact on global climate changing, sure just in progress alone.
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But honestly all these climate changes recently over the past two decades has other reasons other than man. Its just the earth doing its thing...
So are you saying man does or doesn't have an impact?
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Acid rain has never occurred naturally on earth except after major volcanic eruptions. Now it occurs daily in places like the Amazon basin.

Yep, just the earth doing it's thing. Suicide, I guess.
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Just because obama's not an oil man doesn't mean he's pro nuclear power. The coal and oil industries lobby him just as much as the rest of congress to stop that from happening. It's very un-political to have coal towns out of business. Bad for re-election.
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You obviously have`nt got a clue not only about climate science but our local weather.....I suggest that you put down "Cat in the Hat" and try to get through an 8`th grade Earth Science text book.....
Hey. I take offence to that. At least Dr. Seuss makes more sense than some of the things that Brimstone and Atony have said.

I can't imagine how one does not believe that man is the MAIN reason that Earth is frying like an egg on concrete in the Sahara desert in the middle of July. (just pretend that there is concrete somewhere in the middle of the Sahara desert). I'm even MORE surprised that a fellow skier/snowboarder could somehow think it's just something the Earth does as part of it's natural cycle. Why are not more people in a fetal position knowing that we might have to go to Antarctica (someday in the near future...) to shred? And the money we'd have to waste on the heli (or whatever we need to get there); THEN knowing that the fuel we burn to get there is just melting MORE snow.

You're an idiot to believe that humans are not responsible for global warming. You're just plain stupid if you believe it doesn't exist.
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The planet is never in jeopardy, we as a species are. The biggest and earliest threat from any climate change is a change that will affect growing food. The world is already over-populated and starving. If there are food shortages, food will only go to the relatively wealthy, with hte poor nations starving to death spreading warfare around to try to survive.
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